• Dick Justice@lemmy.world
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        11 months ago

        Hate to tell you this… I don’t know if you have kids yet, but it absolutely does not matter how you raise them, if they’re gay they’re gay. The only thing you’re teaching your children, if they are gay, is that their father probably will hate them if he finds out, and they better hide in the closet until they grow up and can escape you. Nothing else. LGBTQ is not the result of poor parenting, friend, it’s genetic.

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            People literally get insurance in case their ram is gay. It’s common and natural, and I’m pretty sure it isn’t because those rams were indoctrinated.

            There are gay people around you. They just haven’t told you because you’re a fucking bigot.

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              I’m pretty sure it isn’t because those rams were indoctrinated.

              The vast majority of mammalian species have high single digit percentage of gay members.

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              11 months ago

              Some of my closest friends are lesbians, and one ftm trans so I’m the farthest thing from a bigot. I just want hetro cis kids because of my upbringing and culture but you’re judging me for wanting that so who’s the bigot here bud?

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                Except I have yet to meet a single person from my culture be LGBTQ. As far as Europeans/Asians that’s been part of their culture for thousands of years and there’s nothing wrong with that.

                Some of my closest friends are lesbians, and one ftm trans

                What? I’m assuming your upbringing is different from the culture you’re a part of now. You are in a culture that is accepting of non-heteronormative things and you don’t even realize it. Please examine what this means to you and why you hold the beliefs that you hold, and try to understand why they’re important to you. Also, check to see if they’re benificial or better left in the past. Your culture is a choice. It’s not some intrinsic unchanging thing.

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        11 months ago

        just don’t accept that as an acceptable norm

        gosh if only there were a name for this phenomenon

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        11 months ago

        Imagine thinking that forcing religion and heterosexual norms on a child will change their mind. Your religion does not dictate mine or my kids lives or lifestyles and don’t want that religious indoctrination forced on to us.

        Some people (Ally’s, LGBTQIA+, Genderqueer individuals, etc…) just don’t accept that as an acceptable norm in their culture and don’t want their children to think it’s an acceptable lifestyle. As someone who has a plethora of religious friends and acquaintances and comes from one of those liberal cultures I simply mean that I respect them and their rights but I also want to raise my children to grow up being their authentic selfs and living their life.

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          “grow up being their authentic selfs”? so what age would you introduce them to homosexuality and gender theory? would you rather have them be thought that by their school or are you going to teach them that they can just choose their gender or sexuality?

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            The same age we introduce children to heterosexuality and gender theory. If the information taught is objectively truthful and backed up by scientific discovery then it makes no difference where it’s learned because it will be factual.

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            At what age is it OK to let your kid read a book with a straight couple? At that age is the same age I’d teach for other option to be fine. There’s nothing scary about homosexuality just as there isn’t for heterosexuality. If them learning about heterosexual relationships doesn’t hurt them, learning about homosexual relationships won’t hurt them either.

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        Nah, nobody’s got rights to treat others like shit for who they were born as.

        It ain’t right when Salafist muslims do it, it ain’t right when black africans get told to do it by american evangelical missionaries, and it ain’t right when you try to play cover for it by painting it as “just culture.”

        That behaviour is disgusting barbaric and undeserving of the respect afforded to true cultural differences like language and dress and (non harmful) traditions.