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Give him a red card after the fact. That will REALLY piss off their bosses from their second jobs.
They are very clearly lying in the audio, there’s no way that they don’t know it should’ve been a red, they made the conscious decision to not follow the rules of the sport, to the benefit of one team & the detriment of another.
The fact that this had to be leaked & wasn’t released on the VAR review show says it all, they were trying to hide it.
And yet the majority will still laugh at the idea of the PGMOL facilitating match fixing.
We still talking about this game smh
(Bruno should have a got a red though no doubt about that)
All these retrospective comments are useless, only make us more grieved.
Start by giving post match punishments and make these more harsh than what they would get during the matches. Give Bruno 6 matches ban for this.
Lol, Bruno should be punished more heavily for a refereeing error than he would be if he got sent off in game.
Havertz 6 games too?
was it carded during the game?
If not there should be a retrospective red-card/ban for this. I didn’t watch the game but the longer footage (which shows him miss a sliding challenge and then go back in for the elbow) is damning…
Considering the unbiased panel (rather than Arsenal fans£ decided this was 3-2 and Havert 5-0, and you want a 6 game ban for Bruno I’m sure you’ll also be arguing for a much longer ban for the much clearer red……
This is an unsophisticated operation. We should have a mini version of a traffic control center- multiple screens, technologies and angles to quickly decipher. It is easily possible. This is a few guys interpreting things in a rushed fashion. Game has to move on yes, so every angle needs to be ready to go instead of them marking possibilities and points of failure with multiple humans hurredly
can’t give red card to Newcastle player easily though, otherwise oil money will stop.
Sometimes it’s best just to let go
I’ll say all day the goal should have stood. This is a clear red card though and I have no idea how neither the ref nor VAR gave it.
It’s embarrassing.
No clear protocol.
No professionalism calling each other by their nicknames.
No technical language at all.
Could you imagine a rugby referee describing something as ‘not nice’?
Honestly if they announced they were giving all VAR roles over to bunch of professional rugby referees along with a handbook of the rules of football I would be over the fucking moon.
When they call each other by their nicknames it sounds so corny
For some reason I read this in Angry Rantman’s voice lol
just checked the flair. still crying. i bet they will keep on crying about it till the end of season.
I’ll tell this story to my grandchildren 😉
VAR and refereeing in general could be easily improved by an automated software that simply asks the referees about the situation they are reviewing.
Literally just a screen that asks: What are you reviewing? Check all that apply.
Foul? Offside? Unsportsmanlike Conduct?
Then based on what they’re reviewing, each team member reviews one aspect.
Handball? -> Did the ball hit the arm below the shoulder (or whatever the rule they’re using is)? -> Was the arm extended from the body ? -> Was the arm in a natural position? -> Was the arm in movement? -> Blah blah blah you get the point.
At the end of the process it spits out a quick list of potential options and the refs make a decision that has been assisted by the software. And then, because we know what refs are like, it’ll ask them if they’ve checked for obvious errors. “Are you sure you reviewed the right player? Are you sure you want this onside goal to be overturned? Are there any players having their hair pulled by Cristian Romero?” etc.
Oh and train people in this process, so that the VAR team can be composed of individuals who are not mates with Anthony Taylor.
Hopefully this gets voted to the top. Seems an obvious change to make.
“It’s not nice”. Yep but how does that fit within the laws of the game….
Now we know why they don’t like releasing the audio
"if you are not nice yellow card at most " pgmol
Well as he didn’t get anything it’s clearly between clean tackle and yellow card.
and the glorious panel of 5 a week later voted this 3-2.
2 people didn’t vote this as a red card.
such stupidity that you’d be naive to not consider corruption.
They all knew it was a red, they wanted it to look like less of a fuck up.
Same reason they pretended the Havertz one should’ve also been a red.
Damage control for match fixing.
They both should have been reds.
They all agreed it was a red, 2 of them didn’t think it was a clear and obvious error for the referee to overturn his original decision
Fwiw him and Jorjinho should’ve been off. But that’s the decision the panel actually made.
what’s crazy is that it’s basically one person deciding on the decision with no argument against him.
Yeah, what would happen if he’d just said “Oh, he hit him in the head”
And this is after everyone was giving them credit for the process on the one they released. Clearly they just release the one that looked better. It’s all a PR exercise.