• JoshyRanchy@alien.topB
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    9 months ago

    I dont think they are lazy, they all train and for the most part keep themself fit.

    Not a manc but it seema like the facilities needs to be improved. Need to have a good environment to foster a elite mentality.

    People like Ten Hag with ball knowledge have to be given time and respect. Sure all the players are making more money and have all the bitches they can want.

    Ball knowledge a d pedigree have to be at the center of it all.

    They give out too many big contracts too fast. Most of the player that fizzle are good players, just not in line with their wages and this puts on pressure.

    Martial is decent for 80k/pw. Maybe bever 120 because he had some electric early seasons that may have got him a bump. But 250 k is criminal.

    The fans had an unreasonable level of expectation of how they should have compete against citeh and the new eara of football.

    I think it drove the board to make those big marquee signings that may not have worked out instead of taking risks on players.

    The ship is coming around. It will take some time but they are getting some turnaround in the squad and it will improve in time.

    A few more windows with Ten Hag, then try a 3 seasons with De Zerbi or someone whoknows ball.

  • Bojan1999@alien.topB
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    9 months ago

    10 years same story every year with new managers and players every year. After this long players and managers might not be the problem the owners are the problem

  • mzyxkmah@alien.topB
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    9 months ago

    About two years, I criticised Rashford on this sub for his substandard performance on the field and the fact that he was more focused on issues off the field, and I was heavily downvoted.

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  • Yoraffe@alien.topB
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    9 months ago

    I think half of this is expectation management. They were never going to be the team that Fergie had, getting top two every season as at least an aim.

    Now they just need to aim for Top 4/5 and rebuild internally. Come back stronger. They have the image and the brand and the fans globally that will follow them whatever. Stop trying to be a Fergie team and be a new age club with good values and go from there.

    They really need new owners for a start who actually care about the stadium and the club. They don’t need money thrown at them, but someone who cares about football.

  • alw9@alien.topB
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    9 months ago

    make the team more militaristic. pogba ruined ur team’s mentality. fergie used to even disallow colorful boots. start from the smallest things. stop buying cocky young players without having macho seniors like rio or vidic that will shut them up instantly. i highly doubt CR would have been successful under todays man u.

  • Jamey_1999@alien.topB
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    9 months ago

    I agree here, and this is the difference between them and say Real Madrid.

    If you play with that little effort at the Bernabeu, you are getting benched until you’re sold at the first opportunity. Simple as that.

  • keving691@alien.topB
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    9 months ago

    Whats mad is we’ve been saying it for years. Different managers, different players, same problems.

  • aindie2009@alien.topB
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    9 months ago

    I feel like having a clear style of play is so important, that can then drive your recruitment and even if you are not getting the results currently, you can still have faith in the process as long as you can see some progress.

    United have no direction, I know Ten Hag says they are following a plan but I dont think any United fan can tell us that plan. They allowed De Gea to leave for a ball playing GK but dont play out of the back, they bought Ambarat whos not really a ball playing DM, he keeps benching Varane. Feels like he’s sacking himself

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    9 months ago

    There’s many physical problems with the United squad - in terms of work rate, strength, and pace. People shit on Rashford, rightfully so, but it’s not just him.

    AWB is good at tackling, but when he loses the ball high up he jogs back into position.

    Luke Shaw is one of our better players, but because of all his injuries he is incredibly slow.

    Maguire has been great recently, but again very slow and not agile.

    Garnacho is young and that shows in his strength. So easy to outmuscle him.

    Martial just can’t run anymore and doesn’t work hard anyway.

    Mctominay works hard but again, not very agile. He has to do a full 180 turn in order to pass.

    Amrabat is so slow and similar to Mctominay, turns like a truck.

    Eriksen and Casemiro are going over the hill. Both very slow and not agile.

    Varane looks like bambi on ice when he’s running.

    Rashford is extremely lazy and easy to push off the ball.

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    9 months ago

    Full quote-

    “Rubbish. They’re a poor football team at the moment, aren’t they? Those results they’ve had recently are misleading. Too many lazy players on the football team - you can’t get away with that.”