Crosspost from [email protected].

An overview of studies which investigate correlations between morality and religious vs. secular / atheist ideologies presented by Phil Zuckerman who is a professor of sociology and secular studies at the Claremont colleges in California, USA.

Summary: Atheists / secular people not only have morals but are even more moral than religious people.

Note: Of course moral is a matter of perspective. In this context we agree that compassion and empathy are our foundations of moral.

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldEnglish
      533·
      11 months ago

      With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion.

      ― Steven Weinberg

          • jasory@programming.devEnglish
            110·
            11 months ago

            If this is all just a game about writing a string of characters, then why are you complaining about my comment?

            If it’s not then why are you endorsing a false statement?

            • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldEnglish
              31·
              11 months ago

              Do you really not understand that people can say things which other people can agree with without being able to prove them? What do you want, a morality survey?

              • jasory@programming.devEnglish
                15·
                11 months ago

                I understand it. It’s not a logical action. You’re not some misunderstood super genius, you’re a standard internet poster who blindly accepts and endorses false statements simply because it agrees with your preconceived notions.

                I like how this entire time you’re arguing for why you posted it (which nobody actually cares about), and not actually defending the statement made.

                  • jasory@programming.devEnglish
                    16·
                    11 months ago

                    You literally forgot that you posted a quote claiming that religion is necessary for immoral actions?

                    Are you actually so stupid that external parties understand your motivations better than you?

    • rosymind@leminal.spaceEnglish
      2·
      11 months ago

      I have a friend who recently got caught cheating in school. At about 40, I’m headed back as well. The other day I mentioned that I needed to take a math placement test (I haven’t taken any math classes in about 2 decades). She said that I should have my husband take them for me.

      1. No, I want to learn, and not struggle which I would if I was placed in a higher level math than I am currently capable of understanding
      2. It’s obviously the wrong thing to do

      Guess what she originally majored in…

      Christian Theology

    • Sylvartas@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      11 months ago

      Hey I do know a few truly compassionate and empathic religious people. In my own experience they are definitely more of an exception than the norm though.

      • 𝙲𝚑𝚊𝚒𝚛𝚖𝚊𝚗 𝙼𝚎𝚘𝚠@programming.devEnglish
        5·
        11 months ago

        Hitler was not really irreligious. Some historians claim he remained a Christian, despite disliking the church. Others claim he was not a Christian in the traditional sense of the word, but did keep some level of reverence for Jesus.

        The most commonly held belief it seems is that Hitler was a deist, believing in some god that would protect the German people, though not necessarily the Judeo-Christian god. He did however remain a member of the Catholic church until his suicide.

        Regardless of his own beliefs, he did use religion as a tool to further his genocidal plans.