• ilinamorato@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Incorrect. Anyone who says they are a Christian is a Christian, at least in Protestantism.

    No. Anyone who believes in and follows Jesus is Christian; we just usually only have someone’s word to go by.

    You don’t have to do good works or anything of the kind to be a Christian.

    True, but a lack of love and good works proves that the repentance was a sham. “A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot produce good fruit.” Seasons of rebellion and momentary mistakes happen, but if a person’s life is marked by constant, unrestrained evil, they’re showing a lack of fruit that probably means they aren’t repentant.

    You just have to admit that you are a sinner, profess to regret those sins, and “accept Jesus into your heart”. That’s it.

    Yeah, that’s not Christianity. Not historically speaking, at least. It’s a shockingly new development and almost entirely centered on American individualism, and Christians from longer ago than the 1700s wouldn’t recognize any of that. Scripturally and historically, Christianity requires belief and repentance; which look, superficially and in the moment, like admitting you’re a sinner and accepting Jesus into your heart, but prove themselves to be something different over time.

    In theory, accepting Jesus into your heart is supposed to improve your behavior, but it isn’t a requirement

    Actually, it is. The writer of Hebrews says (13:12) equates sanctification with salvation. Historically, believing that one can happen without the other is just a bizarre idea because they were considered synonymous.

    (obviously, with all of those rapey priests!!).

    Indeed, they aren’t repentant, and are thus not Christians.

    As I’m sure you know, you can be the worst kind of sinner all of your life, but as long as you accept Jesus and confess your sins to Him before you die, you’re all good!

    Again, historically and theologically, this is unrecognizable as Christianity.

    Ah Christianity…the ultimate get-out-of-hell-free card, and no one can gain-say you.

    In America, at least. But the Church has, throughout the ages, excommunicated people for being horrible and “showing their faith to be a shipwreck.” We hear about unrepentant, non-Christian people (particularly among the puritans) who used excommunication as a weapon against those they didn’t like (particularly women), but it has been used correctly throughout history as well; to get the wolves away from the sheep.

    It is just between you and your Saviour. It is just so darn convenient, like a drive-thru. No wonder it is so popular.

    Individualism is popular now, to our great shame, but a community of faith urging one another toward sanctification is in the Bible, in the early church, and in the continuing line of Christianity throughout history.

    Incidentally, the “drive-thru” analogy is pretty close to what Luther was “protesting” against in the first place. I think there’s another Reformation coming, and this one is going to be about the people who value and respect and love breaking away from the people who don’t.