Hey, German here. What the f*** are Americans doing at the other side of the Atlantic? Some of you already know this monstrosity. I did’nt. This is a Ford F650 Truck and when I stepped out of my Youtube Bubble I realized, it was marketed as the “biggest, baddest Truck on the road” for the everyday American. Are you guys serious?! Is the end goal really to drive a Monster Truck to McDs to get a McFlurry? Americas bloodiest wars have been fought in the middle east to secure oil, bombing nations to rubble. And all, for this bullshit? The excess, waste and decadence is mind boggling to me and people on Reddit seriously justifying this by “you know dude I’m 6,4ft. I don’t fit in any other vehicle” makes me go up the wall.
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If you want to be even more outraged by American stupidity, look up “rolling coal”. In short, morons buy large trucks like this and purposely detune their emissions systems to run poorly, decreasing fuel efficiency and spewing soot laden exhaust. The only purpose to do this is to piss off liberals, apparently.
You’re joking? Oh my,… you’re not.
The best part (/s) is when they purposefully drive in front of people with a ‘wimpy’ car, like a hybrid or EV or a car that isn’t fuckhuge, and intentionally spews smog behind them.
Very mature folk, very stable, very safe to be around, as I’m sure you can tell.
Where I live, you get up to two years in jail for brake-checking someone, and a potentially life-altering fine if you cut off a pedestrian. Cops are extremely strict about cars endangering others because they’re very easy charges. I’d love to see their reaction to rolling coal.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone brake-checking in my country. It’s almost always videos from the US.
Probably because drivers’ education in the USA is a fucking joke and licenses are handed out like candy. New drivers inherit the flaws and bad manners from their parents because they’re not required to be trained by a certified instructor.
No, it’s because enforcement is a joke, not licensing.
One of the things that’s hard for a European to understand is how shoddy and capricious law enforcement in North America can be. You know those lovely conditional speed limits that Germany has? No way that works in North America because the police won’t do anything except sit in their interceptors on the last two days of they month doing speed traps.
Swerve, fail to signal, brake-check, basically drive like you’re Bumblebee in Michael Bay’s Transformers 2, that’s fine. Just stay below the speed limit on the last two days of the month.
Or bikes
and remember - they vote too!
Where is the 2nd ammendment if you need it?
Sadly they are not, the people that do it are the worst kind of asshole. They generally like to “roll coal” while passing electric or hybrid cars, covering them with soot. The spend thousands of dollars to be as obnoxious and wasteful as possible, all to spite “the liberals”.
They are proud of their exploits.
https://www.tiktok.com/@brandonmarch98/video/7224092925758606593
It’s the best possible way to spot who was the bottom 10% of the high school class.
That’s how i feel when i see a MAGA or FuckTrudeu sticker on a vehicle
do they wear face coverings
The F650 is a commercial vehicle. You can’t buy one from Ford without a commercial account with them. You need a CDL to drive it. They’re uncommon to see, and when you do, they’re invariably used to do actual work.
No, they’re not used just to drive to McDonald’s.
You don’t need a CDL to drive these. Doug Demuro has even reviewed one.
Slight correction on my part. It’s very easy to set one up to put it technically over the GVWR limit where you need a CDL. Ford makes it so it can be setup just below the limit.
You better.
A vehicle that size is essentially a 5.5 tons truck in Europe, which is the type of vehicle used for moving cargo or modify into a special purpose vehicles. It is not a recreational vehicle.
Thank you! I’m tired of people complaining “hur dur’ big truck bad”, without any other logical input.
I do get it. The market around the F150 (and similar trucks at other manufactures) is ridiculous. There’s luxury trim levels in there that offer two tone leather, which does not seem like the sort of thing anyone who works with their truck would want.
It’s just that once you jump up to the F250 or above, you’re mostly dealing with people who actually use their truck for truck things.
Exactly! I’m in complete agreement! We’ve been wanting the F250 for our fencing company because it seems modest for our tools. Unless someone is constantly moving aroung commercial grade material on a smaller scale the F620 helps, but not very practical for majority of society. Hopefully pushing luxury trucks is just a fad and the next best thing will be more useful for everyone.
This is a really braindead and disingenuous take. The F650 is a commercial vehicle. Attempting to pretend that “Americans” drive these is moronic, because the number of private citizens who drive one of these as a personal vehicle is probably in the triple digits in a country with a population of 332,000,000.
I know it’s fasionable to farm for upvotes these days by blaring AMERICANS BIG TRUCKS BAD. But no one is “driving these to McD’s to get a McFlurry.” Very, very few people own one of these just to be “decadent.”
You may as well get on your high horse about Americans driving big rigs all the time while you’re at it. Because they totally do!!! (It’s true!) Ones who are truck drivers, you know, delivering the goods you rely on every day.
On the very outside edge of the graph, there are probably a few outliers who own one of these to tow something enormous: A big horse trailer or a box trailer with their airplane in it or something. I have never seen one of these on the road that wasn’t an actual commercial vehicle like a tow truck or similar.
The problem with obviously ridiculous whinging like this is that it dilutes the actual useful message, which is that America’s transportation infrastructure is fucked up, and our reliance on fossil fuels (not just trucks) is Too Damn High.
The year is 2068. Everyone takes the bus to work. Their own personal bus.
These are novelty vehicles for the ultra wealthy. “Normal” pickups are already comically large and ripe for mockery, no need to hyperbolize
This is a work truck for commercial use. The bed in this image is an aftermarket mod done by someone with more money than sense. OP is just outrage baiting.
This is a work truck for commercial use, that is an overengineered abomination.
That cannot support large equipment, has no PTO, cannot safely carry a cherry picker, will not pull a low-loader 5th wheel trailer with a full load, run a flat-bed with a winch for towing cars, or carry 7 CY of wet soil in a dumper.
Commercial operations buy things based on their needs. There’s a reason why the small truck you’ve posted is almost non-existent in the US.
There’s a reason why the small truck you’ve posted is almost non-existent in the US.
Yes, it’s called overcompensating. You think other countries don’t do infrastructure and heavy machinery?
This is custom made by a shop. Ford sells the front end and cab, and a small shop builds the rest.
It’s prohibitively expensive to the point of being a non issue. U need to calm down bro.
Ok, see to put thin in context a little bit, this truck is not for, nor is it even marketed towards regular people. This is a modular truck, so this is going to be converted into ambulances, tow trucks, bucket trucks, etc. This one does have a bed on it, but they had to get one from like an F-350 and modify it to get it to fit. And while you can buy this truck, it’s not really a thing on roads here.
Just to add to this, and affirm that it’s not intended to be a “go to McDonald’s” truck, here is the actual product page for this model where it is marketed as a commercial vehicle.
No truck is intended to be a “go to McDonalds” truck. Yet, here we are.
This isn’t true any more, look at any modern consumer pickup truck e.g. Ford F150. The bed is ludicrously small and high, it’s got a fast, low torque petrol engine and transmission, the cabin is large and comfortable. It’s designed to be a normal car and that’s what it’s used for.
Btw… German car companies built those monstrosities…
The Unimog U500 was more or less just a marketing gag, but the G63 was a real thing…
To be fair the G wagon is a ridiculous vehicle, truck bed or not
What’s supposed to be the deal with the Unimog? It’s an off-road capable military/commercial vehicle that is used pretty much exclusively for those kinds of things. I don’t know the guy in the video, but calling the version that he had “luxurious” was patently absurd: Things like climate control can be legally required if you want to tell your employees to work in these vehicles in extreme weathers (and: Germany can get quite hot as well) and didn’t match at all what he was showing. Also: Because it has an additional cabin to transport more people it is a family-version? WTF? The primary use-case for that is if you need to transport several employees to somewhere. Which is not at all an absurd thing if you are talking farmers/military/fire-brigade/construction/…
OP you just got pwned! n00b!! I can’t believe the 6x6 is in GTA V and I’ve never driven it!!
Can confirm. We have 2 Dodge Ram 550s for our ambulances. And the photo clearly has F-550 on the sides.
It also needs a CDL to drive it.
By all means, criticize things like the Lariat or King Ranch trims of the F150. Those add luxury features that clearly have no work purpose. The F250 on up, though, is mostly for people who get shit done.
You do not need a CDL. I don’t know where you’re getting that info
An F650 has a GVWR of 26-29k lbs. A CDL is required for any vehicle over 26k
The GVWR varies, as it’s a modular truck, but the lowest is 25,600 according to Ford. Yes it can be higher and need a CDL, but that’s due to accessories.
Edit: That’s for the 2023 model. Previous model years, such as the 2022 have a GVWR of 22,000 - 26,000
Factory gvw doesn’t matter. What does matter is whether or not it has air brakes, the actual weight of the vehicle including what you are hauling, and the weight range you have insured it for. Your average F350 is legally capable of towing a combined weight of over 25000 lbs also, but you don’t need a CDL till you exceed 25000.
Requirements for the CDL vary by state. Don’t know what yours says, but in my own state of Wisconsin, it’s any one of:
- 26,000lbs GVWR (typically; there’s some details around how the weight is calculated)
- Carries hazmat stuff
- Designed to carry 16 or more people
Air brakes don’t enter into it, at least not here.
If you intend to operate a commercial vehicle with air brakes, you do have to take an air brake skills test in Wisconsin.
You don’t need a CDL if it’s 26,000lbs or lower. That’s the point I’m making. Just driving it, unloaded, without any heavy accessories like a dump bed or a rollback, a CDL is not required. So yes, someone could buy one of these and use it as their mall-crawler without a CDL. That may not be the intended use of the vehicle but it’s possible.
Well played, you answered the German with logic
Do you just search the internet for vague American shit to get mad about? Been all over this country and I’ve never seen one of these outside commercial use.
I used to drive an F650
In the military
For my job
It was a truck to refuel aircraft.
People don’t drive these on the roads, but our trucks are too big.
I’m not defending the truck or America but I don’t think that one is common outside of industry. I live in the South and have never seen one. F150’s are very common, you see F250’s here and there, and F350s are basically exclusively work trucks. I didn’t even know it went up to F650 (the F750 apparently exists but seems like it’s really only for industry).
Ford’s web site has them “starting at” $80k but without a bed or any consumer features. It seems like they’re more the base for order things like fleets of tow trucks or dump trucks. I’m sure a mega rich person can buy one but it’s probably a weird custom thing that costs $200,000 and is missing whatever creature comforts go into vanity trucks.
650s and 750s make up most of those electric service vehicles (huge boxes of tools over the wheels and maybe a cherry picker) and Ambulances. Since ambulances are private businesses (not owned by a hospital wouldn’t you know it.) They purchase their fleets and commission a box for the back. That’s why you see so many different vehicles that look “converted” - because they are!
I’m not discounting your experience but I grew up and lived in Georgia for most of my life, and you are right that f150s are very common, but I remember many more 250s than here and there, I’ve only been gone two years
And I’m sure there are no over the top vehicles in Germany…
There are some morons here that are buying American made “trucks”. More and more unfortunately, but it’s still pretty rare. Luckily it’s damn inconvenient to drive or park them in many places here.
How about sports cars with 12 cylinders? How many super cars are made in Europe?
Sadly they are becoming more by the day. The amount of Hiluxes is also steadily increasing in my neighborhood.
Saw one the yesterday in Oklahoma. They look like gaint Tonka toys and are stupid. But Chevy made one in the early 2000’s guess Ford wants into it now.
These should be outlaw. And I know how to solve the rolling coal but we need to bring back inspections for vehicles to sholve it.
It’s a medium duty truck. The 550 and 650 are most commonly found acting as either tow trucks or heavy machinery repair. Outlawing them is preposterous as they serve a purpose.
Since they’re sold incomplete (without a bed), maybe he means outlawing them being modified like this one with a silly bed? Either way, I’m pretty sure you need a commercial air-brake license to drive this thing in most jurisdictions.
One I saw had a bed and was pulling a trailer. It was loud as fuck.
To be fair, Ford doesn’t really make the final product here. They make the cab and chassis without a bed, and they’re then shipped off to companies that turn them into commercial trucks like large tow trucks. But some company started buying them, slapping on a pickup truck bed, a lift, and a bunch of cheesy accessories and 'Murica flags, then charge idiots $100,000 more than they’re worth so they can own the Libruls.
They’re so rare to see that I’m not even mad, as long as some dipshit is wasting his life savings on this instead of donating it to shit politicians.
Edit: Ford doesn’t even make or offer a pickup truck bed for these. IIRC, these beds are from F-250/350s and modded to fit.
Maybe not that recent “https://www.worktruckonline.com/335688/ford-reports-record-sales-of-the-f-650-and-f-750”. But I guess, enough guys buy em.
I work in the US auto industry. I’m not happy about this shit either.
Also, F650 is a rare vehicle so it really isn’t a good one to be mad about. F150’s and F250’s are everywhere though
This isn’t really something you see on US roads, unless you replace the bed with a flatbed or box. No normal person owns one of these as a pickup truck.
American here. I’ve never seen this truck before. 🤷
the biggest baddest truck
They certainly know their target audience: 6 year olds
Except it isn’t marketed that way at all. It’s a commercial truck that needs a CDL.
It doesn’t need a cdl
The GVWR is 26-29k lbs. A CDL is required for any vehicle over 26k.
Damnnmn.
