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Christian Science does not agree with the theory that morals grow out of people’s behavior. It stands firmly on the ground that morals for mankind are derived from the divine Mind, God, and that they are therefore ageless. Morally right behavior pertaining to sex was revealed by Moses.

  • FabioTheNewOrder@lemmy.world
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    Padre Pio was one of the biggest scammer southern Italy was ever plagued by and he did more damages to this land than any of the mafia family living there has ever done.

    I’m glad he died the horrible way he did and I hope he is now rotting in a metaphorical hell where he belong.

    Source: I’m an Italian who has seen the mental and social damages caused by this fucker

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        He died of an heart attack at 81 years old, just like a normal man would do. No golden carriage descending from the heavens to collect his body nor no resurrection three days after his death.

        A con man dying like a normal human after a life of lies and peddled “miracles” to poor, uneducated people.

        Press S to spit on his grave

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          You are in real bondage.
          I don’t expect you to love him.
          Exhibiting ignorance again.

          LGBTQ+ has all your judgements sideways.

          Press J for Jesus.

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            S

            Until proven contrary it’s not me who has decided to submit his will and reason to the tenets of a religion which doesn’t even consider treating men and women as equals.

            A little projection about the bondage bit? Or a repressed sexual arousal around ropes and chains? Only you can tell us

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              Everybody is not like you.
              I know you were more innocent when you were little.
              You are exhibiting real hate. Do penance before it is too late.

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                There is no hate like christian love.

                The bible says not to judge yet you’re judging Fabio and LGBTQ.

                “1 Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."

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                No hate from me dude, it’s you who is hating homosexual people because they love who they love, without choosing it and without any fault of their own. You really are a full-time projector, uhu? Never thought about working into cinemas? XD XD XD

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                Because I don’t have anything to repent about. I bear no original sin and I haven’t done anything for which I haven’t given my apologies would I have ever hurt someone.

                I don’t need to subject my loyalty to anyone if not myself as I alone am arbiter and judge of my own actions

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            No it doesn’t matter. I have video evidence of some of his works.
            A very holy person can still be in LGBTQ+ country like America (Americans bear with me).
            Padre Pio was a monk. He was met by different people with different problems.
            You seem skilled in character aspersion.
            Southern Italy in the time of the 2nd world war might be the bar for you…
            So what do you have against Padre Pio (specific accusation like he robbed Mr. A).

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      youre literally arguing with a flat earther, check their username and post history. you arent going to reason someone out of a position they didnt reason themselves into.

      dudes just detached from reality.

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        I know but still sometimes I cannot let go and I have to follow for a couple of days these kind of people just to remind them they are no longer in touch with this world, hoping that this will prevent them by spreading their nonsensical reasoning in real life by giving them a good dose of preemptive shame.

        A long shot, I know, but a man has to indulge in some vices from time to time ;)

        Have a great holiday season my dude <3

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        Lmao, your ignorance about this subject shows immediately.

        Padre Pio was considered a scammer by the Catholic church itself and was also found to be a fraud when visited by the doctors sent by the pope to determine if the scars he showed to his followers were of divine origin. When analysed the doctors found that they were most likely self inflicted wounds (there’s also the testimony of a pharmacist who sold this con man some carbolic acid) and that he was putting forward a show for his followers, so much so that he was denied the right to celebrate mass for his schemes. It was John Paul the 2nd who canonized him in 2002 because he realized that if he wanted the support of the gullible people in southern Italy he would have needed to give them something in return; and so he did, by making him a saint against the better judgment of Benedict the 15th and of Pio the 11th, the popes who lived during his times and who barred him from celebrating mass.

        I’d love to give you some references to educate you but unfortunately most of the material is in Italian language and your ignorance prevents you from accessing it.

        Padre Pio did not invent the microscope but he was able to create a cult worshipping his image in lieu of god, a sin which should be very grave according to the Christian faith tenets

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          No. You are a story teller. Your source is mainly calumny.
          Anybody can do that to Jesus, Francis of Assisi, Padre Pio. In fact, stigmas of Christ is not something new in the Church.
          When something miraculous begins, it has to be investigated.
          According to my source, people wanted him out of the way.
          According to my source, there was no carbolic acid mentioned.
          According to my source, doctors examined with wonders (lots of blood loss).

          He lived in a monastery. You don’t need a doctor to declare it was a fraud if it was really a fraud.
          Perhaps the whole monastery was involved?
          Pope Pius 11 had no letter against Padre Pio.
          Your story is full of interpolations and holes.
          And I see your trust in the ‘popes’ here.

          Catholics don’t worship images. (Your ignorance again).
          Padre Pio lived through the 1st and 2nd world war, and he fought modernism tooth and nail.
          Please give me your Italian reference (even a child could read Italian these days).
          Make sure it is Catholic (that is what you claimed) (or don’t worry, I will accept any link).