Thereā€™s this rising narrative going around that if you ask specifically for a CIS partner, youā€™re a transphobe. That could be true for some people but itā€™s not fundamentally related to bigotry. Moreover, this narrative, the ā€œif you only want a CIS mate then that is prejudiceā€ is trampling on one of the most important rights a person can have: the right to choose who they want to get intimate with.

First of all, transmen are in fact men and transwomen are in fact women. Letā€™s get that out of the way. This isnā€™t a foot in the door for ā€œtrans this really isnā€™t thatā€ narratives. What this is about it is the freedom to choose who you want to be intimate with. That right is sancrosanct, it is absolutely inviolable.

And yes, thereā€™s plenty of issues that make transgender dating a special issue. If someone reveals their TG status they can be open to hate crimes and even deadly violence. However all marginalized groups are special in their own way. As a black man I donā€™t think itā€™s racist if a woman says she doesnā€™t want to date a black man. I face oppression, too. My class is special in its own way. One group isnā€™t more special than the other. None of us have the right to force ourselves upon those who donā€™t want to be intimate with us, even by omitting who we really are.

Really, if you have to deceive or hide who you are in order to date someone, do you really want to date them? I wouldnā€™t. Thatā€™s not fair to you and youā€™re denying them their right to choose who they want. What do you think will happen when the person wants a CIS mate and they discover the truth? Theyā€™re going to get pissed and dump you. Now you have to shame them into staying with you: ā€œIf you loved me for real this wouldnā€™t bother youā€ā€¦ thatā€™s not going to convince anyone. Theyā€™re either going to leave, or theyā€™ll resent you forever. Thatā€™s just how it is. You can be mad at that but thatā€™s about as effective as protesting the rising of the sun. Thereā€™s just no way to win once youā€™ve gone down that road.

ā€œI want a CIS mateā€ is not the same as ā€œtrans women are not womenā€ - one is a preference, the other is harmful prejudice. On the flip side CIS people who do date trans people shouldnā€™t be shamed for their choices either. A man should be free to date a trans woman and not catch flak about it. Trans people should be able to be openly trans and not face hate speech or threats to their well-being. This, without any exception whatsoever.

The fundamental fact is when you shame or worse abrogate peopleā€™s right to choose who they want to get intimate with, itā€™s not going to end well for you. All youā€™re going to get is people who resent being coerced or bullied to date people they donā€™t want to. And thatā€™s not something the country, or the world, will ever put up with. Except that right now, most people donā€™t imagine they can be labeled a transphobe just for wanting a CIS mate. And unpopular opinion: that should be nipped in the bud.

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    Oh boy do I have a load of dumb questions, if youā€™ll humor me? For context, Iā€™m a middle-aged, cis, white guy. Dated a lot the last few years, settled down and just married the finest woman Iā€™ve ever known.

    What does ā€œtranswomanā€ mean? LOL, I donā€™t even know how to approach this. For me, if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, itā€™s a duck, good enough. Iā€™d date a transwoman that was, uh, ā€œcompletelyā€ a woman. Gods I hope you know what I mean.

    OK, Iā€™ll go with my wife, maybe clear it up. Sheā€™s a Filipina, unapologetically feminine. All else being the same, if she had been born with a penis, wouldnā€™t care. Among 100 other things, I so love her femininity.

    Am I embarrassing myself? Sure feels like it. Never had any trans friends, or even known any trans folks. Anyhow, I hope you understand Iā€™m on your side, all the way. (Thatā€™s not a cutesy slogan. I train, I carry, I mean it with all my heart. If it comes to it, no one is going on a train if I can help it.)

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      No shame, my friend. People are still deciding/learning what accurate yet inoffensive terms are okay to use in a given situation. You care enough to be aware of the issue, and to me, thatā€™s the most important thing.

      Congratulations on your wedding!

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      I think that you likely have met trans folks but were not aware. Hell, they may not have been aware. Relative to us cis people, they are a minority of human population, but trans people are everywhere. Keep rocking your allyship and make your acceptance of everyone for who they are clear, and you might find you have people around you that feel comfortable sharing. Also keep in mind that it can be physically very dangerous for them to share who they are.

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      Congratulations on being married!

      A transwoman (my best interpretation) means someone born male who took hormones to become female, and maybe an operation to exchange a penis for a vagina. A transwoman is completely a woman, they were just not assigned female at birth.

      All else being the same, if she had been born with a penis, wouldnā€™t care. Among 100 other things, I so love her femininity.

      See, I support this freedom to choose who you want to be with.

      Am I embarrassing myself? Sure feels like it. Never had any trans friends, or even known any trans folks. Anyhow, I hope you understand Iā€™m on your side, all the way. (Thatā€™s not a cutesy slogan. I train, I carry, I mean it with all my heart. If it comes to it, no one is going on a train if I can help it.)

      Well itā€™s not like half the populace is trans. They make up at most 3% of the overall population. There are whole regions of America where they donā€™t exist or are very much hiding who they are. You may have a trans friend and not even know it.

      BTW do you have any connection to the John Brown gun club? Iā€™m not close friends with their members but just wondering.