Even Rudy Giuliani thought her plan to seek blanket immunity, before breaching Georgia voting machines, was ā€œover the top,ā€ according to a new book by reporters Michael Isikoff and Daniel Klaidman.

As allies of Donald Trump schemed to seize voting machines in swing states after the 2020 election, Sidney Powell proposed issuing preemptive pardonsā€”which the team described as ā€œhunting licensesā€ā€”to shield them from legal liability, according to a new book by investigative reporters Michael Isikoff and Daniel Klaidman.

ā€œI need six to eight pardons,ā€ the former Trump attorney said in a Virginia planning meeting, according to Find Me the Votes, excerpts of which were reviewed by Vanity Fair ahead of its January 30 publication date. ā€œWhat we need is a ā€˜hunting licenseā€™ that provides top cover for ops,ā€ a member of Powellā€™s team wrote to Lin Wood, another Trump lawyer involved in the effort to overturn Joe Bidenā€™s 2020 victory, according to Isikoff and Klaidman.

According to Isikoff and Klaidman, the team asked Michael Trimarco, an associate of Rudy Giulianiā€™s, to get the former New York City mayor to approve the pardon proposal. But Giuliani ā€œdismissed the idea as over the top,ā€ according to the book. Trimarco apparently agreed, recalling that he thought, ā€œWhat the fuck?ā€ as the group mulled the idea.

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      Doesnā€™t have to be secret, but there would be state law violations here that the President canā€™t pardon away.

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      There actually isnā€™t a requirement that pardons be announced until they get someone out of the consequences. Trump could have pardoned himself for any federal crime, and just left the document in a drawer somewhere to be used later.

      The question of constitutionality has never been tested, so maybe it works and maybe it doesnā€™t. As others have noted, it wouldnā€™t work at all for state crimes. But as a concept, ā€œsecretā€ pardons are conceivably possible and potentially valid. We just never had a criminal so brazen in the White House that anyone thought of it before.

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        Trump could not have pardoned himself because pardoning is not a thing people can do to themselves. Donā€™t normalize the idea that it is.

        Imagine people saying ā€œI pardon myselfā€ after bumping into you on the street. Thatā€™s the level of absurdity weā€™re at.

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          None of that logic works.

          Random people canā€™t legally pardon anyone. Thatā€™s why they canā€™t pardon themselves.

          The President can legally pardon people accused of federal crimes. Itā€™s only common sense that stops one from pardoning themselves, not the law.

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            Iā€™m advocating for the meaning of words in the constitution meaning what theyā€™ve always meant. Thereā€™s no need or justification for inventing some new legal meaning for a word the authors of the Constitution didnā€™t see fit to define.