OnlyOffice is certainly more mature as a hosted app. It was born like this, the desktop version was the port. LibreOffice Online is still beta, I think.

So if your interest is in hosting and online editing, OnlyOffice. Also has an interface that’s very similar to MS Office 365, which can be a pro or con to some. LibreOffice has a more traditional toolbar paradigm.

You can try both before string up a server to see what you prefer. They’re both copyleft so no chance of a rug pull.

There’s Servo too. So ladybird can crash and burn for all I care.

So like OnlyOffice and LibreOffice Online?

Edit: to clarify: both of these products can be self hosted. OnlyOffice’s main business model is to sell hosting services, their software is AGPL v3.

I’m not complaining, but why create something from the ground up when they could be improving OnlyOffice or LibreOffice?

Honestly all the highlights are really cool. The non destructive editing is a game changer.

Yes. And Betterbird reduces the dialing home to the absolute minimum necessary.

You can sign up for free on most servers. I think tchncs.de has video and audio conferencing enabled if you want to try that out.

Teams is sort of a drag though. Very resource intensive for what it does. But if everyone in your company has ram and CPU to spare, it’s mostly painless.

Pascal is so awful. Damn, I wish it was dead.

In C too*.

*for certain compilers, that is.

Cool, thanks for explaining! I take it they don’t work that well on WINE either?

No they don’t.

It’sa tentative anti AI scrapping measure.

I’m clueless as to why one would want either. Running old hardware peripherals?

I had just graduated, fresh engineer and super happy I landed a pretty good starting engineering job in a great company. I was quite lucky. Engineers dropping like flies, becoming taxi drivers, or whatever they could find to sustain their families. All investments everywhere were dwindling. Thankfully oil prices were high regionally so some remained.

I’m sure it would. But in many languages a double negative just reinforces the negative. Hence the question.

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There’s also Dart with its similar syntax to JS, strong type and null safety, and ahead of time compilation with hot reload. And yet it only really started getting adoption after being chosen as the language for Flutter.

I’m with you. Those TOUs are unacceptable.

I don’t have an answer for that. I’m on the outside looking in.