And not even a remotely creative statement. 🙄

Last I checked they haven’t yet added user-facing controls to configure this yet. I don’t know where it is on the priority list.

I have been using nothing but Linux for the last decade (literally, Arch for years and now Nix) and I’m increasingly growing to hate how so many OSS communities are bordering on zealotry.

I’ve completely unsubbed from most Android communities now too because they’re all such toxic, hostile places to be if you have the sheer audacity to use anything proprietary or closed source.

I’ve been around this block. I’ve been both using and contributing to open source projects, some small, some large. I’m proud of what open source developers have achieved and am humbled by most of them. But the users…the users are starting to get really annoying.

Congrats on not reading the post at all and writing something that literally has nothing to do with this thread.

It takes a special level of determination to be so completely clueless.

Do you believe that on a social platform like this, democracy is the best policy when it comes to what is shown and what is not?

Ah, the Internet equivalent of “I know you are but what am I?”…

“this thing that doesn’t affect me at all annoys me and shouldn’t be visible”

There’s other people here who like the transparency. Literally all you have to do is keep scrolling…

Driving a Leaf 100km a day does not mean that the battery has a range of 100km or more. It is extremely common to charge whenever you park, whether at work or when stopping at home or any time in between drives. With a charge in the middle of the day, even a car with a max range of 50km could still do 100km in one day.

The point he’s making is not about range, it’s about the longevity and the reliability of the car.

https://tailscale.com/kb/1218/nextdns/

Easy to set up, mine is working great.

It’s accessing literally anything you self host from home, with minimal latency and without any port forwarding on your router or exposing your services to the Internet.

It’s primary benefit is how fast it is, how much easier it is to set up for even the most novice of users, and how ubiquitous all the clients are.

Plus it’s free for 100 endpoints, which is far more than most individuals will need for home labs. And even that you can get around by using subnet routing.

If you’ve ever wanted to run your own sort of Dropbox or Google docs (Syncthing/Next cloud) but didn’t want to deal with the security hassle of exposing it to the Internet, this removes that completely. No more struggling with open ports, fail2ban, or messing with reverse proxies.

This is literally the point. “Entitled tech workers childishly resign over requests to return to office” is a much, much better headline then “Grindr lays off half its staff”.

They’re doing it on purpose. It’s no longer about some old school mentality of "butts in seats " and micromanaging…these companies have realized this is a way to massively cut costs without the hit in stock price/public opinion.

We need to stop falling for this “they are so old fashioned lol” narrative, because they’re all more than happy to let you believe that.

No offense, but saying this almost completely disqualifies you from having this conversation about private messengers.

This is one of the coolest features I’ve seen before. Direct linking to settings!! Super cool.

Ludicrously simple setup, that’s all.

There is something odd about the fonts used for Thunder. Maybe the spacing between the letters, I don’t know exactly.

Hm, then respectfully, if it’s not possible for a RedHat employee to be anything more than an advertisement and we’re judging the number of people on either side to be the indicator of truth, then I guess there’s nothing productive for you and I to discuss. I didn’t hear anything that sounded like rationalization or excuses from the RedHat guy.

Something people were getting for free is no longer free. Those people will always outnumber anyone who has a different perspective on the situation. Which is why I said that FOSS enthusiasts have a tendency not to understand or appreciate what they’re getting for “free” and everyone wants to treat open source like it’s entirely powered by community and spirit and “money” or “compensation” or “economics” don’t really mean anything because we shrug it aside.

Everyone wants to demonize the big bad corporate IBM but somehow we’re totally happy looking the other way while Rocky Linux happily clones the product and sells support contracts to NASA that should rightfully go to RedHat, no matter how much money RedHat makes.

I think RedHat has provided tons of alternatives and compromises that don’t involve buying RHEL. Again, I don’t think this decision is going to convert anyone to a paid customer.

This is not remotely ghetto, this is really well done. Sure the fans are a bit wonky but that is one hell of a machine for the money.

Well done!

I trust them to run the compiled binary code they provide, why wouldn’t I trust them to do the right thing with telemetry to actually improve the experience?

You can literally see the metrics schema and what is being collected, it’s not some proprietary sneak on your system secretly phoning home. If it gives them actual information on problems, allows them to correlate issues with environment, cause and effect, UX heatmaps to improve common actions, why wouldn’t I want that?

I can be privacy-minded, but also not have the binary black and white opinion that all telemetry is bad and evil. I’ve almost never reported bugs directly to a distro, it’s just not something I have the time or patience for. But in the absence of that as my contribution, my telemetry is likely to help at least paint a picture for developers on where to start with fixing issues, and I think that’s just fine.

Plus, I can just opt out at any time. And I have zero issues trusting Fedora that when I say “opt out” it will actually opt out and not try to do some funny business.

Wow, that’s a weird take. The host brings up several points on the other side too, and the Red Hat employee even acknowledges some shortcomings, but all you really heard was “RedHat good everyone else bad” when you listened to that?

I mean, you want multiple perspectives, you need to include someone who has a stake in both. The entire Linux community is seemingly latched on to one side, does it not make sense to bring in someone from RedHat? Why are they automatically just “company yes men”?

How can you ever have any kind of nuance or understanding of the other side if you just view it black and white like that? I’ve read and understood the claims from people that are upset with Red Hat, and I kind of get it, but I also think these people don’t really understand the value of what it is they’re using. Under-appreciating what you get for “free” is a very, very common sentiment among FOSS users (and I’m no exception, I’m sure I’m guilty of it too). But the facts here are simple; no one is really “losing” anything here except Rocky and Alma, and they should not have built their business model on basically taking de-branded RHEL and selling support for it directly.

Like I said, Fedora is not going anywhere, CentOS Stream is not going anywhere. If you are a Red Hat customer, the source code of whatever you run is always fully available. There is literally nothing being lost by anyone except those who wanted to use Rocky/Alma as a perfect 1:1 clone of RHEL without contributing a single penny back to RedHat. Yet somehow, the narrative has been changed into “Redhat is being evil and violating the spirit of open source and blah blah blah” and somehow, conveniently, no one has noticed that all of the narrative seems to only benefit/support Rocky and Alma? No one finds that the least bit suspicious?

Whether or not RedHat is going to suddenly claw back a bunch of business from all these people that were using “free” RHEL, that I highly doubt. As far as a move to try to regain perceived losses, I doubt RedHat is going to have any success with that, if that’s their intention. But see, I can have the opinion that they’re removing loopholes for competitors who add absolutely nothing (whether monetary or code contributions) but take and “resell”, and I can also have the opinion that it’s probably not going to change the bottom line much because people who were used to getting “RHEL” for “free” aren’t going to start paying for RHEL, they’re just going to go elsewhere.

Oh I see.

I guess I’ll wait with baited breath for when you’re ready to hold people to that standard. I suppose until then you won’t understand why this is just embarrassing for Musk.