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  • some people just voted for President and left the rest of the ballot blank

    Yes, that’s exactly what they did. They intentionally left a blank next to Sanders’s name.

    They sure didn’t do that in Wisconsin. In Wisconsin, voters made sure to vote for Tammy Baldwin. In fact, many people voted for Tammy and left the presidency blank, or even voted for Trump. And Wisconsin is equally un-impoverished and even less unequal than Vermont.

    Likewise Ruben Gallego and Elissa Slotkin proved their ability to bring in people who didn’t want to vote for Harris. Whereas Sanders failed. The future of the party lies with those who deliver actual results.

    Sanders supporters keep making excuses for him, but the fact is that his supposed ability to bring in non-Democrats has never been demonstrated in a real election. It’s just wishful thinking, exactly the same as “There’s plenty of reason to think that Kamala will be popular with white women”.








  • FlowVoid@lemmy.worldtopolitics @lemmy.worldLiberals Are Giving Up on America
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    Pundits are losing their minds, but I don’t think the Democratic party leaders are giving up.

    My hunch is that they are playing the long game. They are counting on three things. First, Trump’s plans will crash the economy. Second, the Trump White House always turns on its own. Third, with a GOP trifecta there isn’t much Democrats can do to stop Trump - for now.

    So any demands they make now will be ignored, and even used in the future to blame Democrats as obstructionist. I think they are lying low and giving the GOP what they need to hang themselves. When the public is furious about the economy, it will be time to start making demands.

    Basically, it’s the political equivalent of the Willy Wonka gif




  • you seem to think its impossible to win an election and not do well in your home state.

    That’s not what I’m saying.

    I’m saying there is exactly one data point that directly compares Bernie to Kamala, and it shows more support for Kamala than Bernie.

    And since that is the only place where they can be compared, there is no evidence at all that Bernie would have more support than Kamala in other states.

    right wingers constantly allign with people like Bernie

    There are right wingers in Vermont too. That’s why their governor is a Republican. Yet among all the people who voted for Gov Scott, there weren’t enough Bernie supporters to make a difference.

    In other words people were willing to vote for Harris and a Republican governor more than they were willing to vote for Sanders. He simply does not have the support you think he does.

    Right wingers do not constantly align with AOC. There very few Trump + AOC voters, she was just interested in hearing from them.