I’m mostly just going to disengage because I think we’re really on the same side here and I’m just being a pedant on a thread about an innocent man being murdered, but I think you’re kinda missing the point too. Social murder happens literally everywhere constantly, even socialist countries.

show me a state in the entire world that doesn’t exist because it has captured a monopoly over legitimate violence. The best the subjects of a state can hope for is that state violence is only ever implicit, but if there was no threat of being put to death or seriously harmed for individuals that threaten the continued existence of a state, that state would cease to be.

However, it is true that America is particularly brutal with regards to executing civilians. Something that stands out is that, compared to other countries that regularly execute their citizens, there’s a pretty obvious skew in terms of who’s getting the death penalty. Compared to China, for example, the US hasn’t executed anyone for white collar crime in a long time (hopefully someone can find a reference to the last time it happened, I’m not sure where to check) but appears to be killing Black and Muslim folks awfully often. Really makes you think, right?

I think there’s an interesting phenomenon where even white normies understand how demonically racist the American institutions are. Ideologically committed racists don’t, but everyone else sees at least part of it. However, because this only gives you a negative assertion (don’t trust what the courts say) and the isn’t really a normative, absolute system we can trust in the absence of any reliable rulings from the hegemonic institutions, we’re just left with a wide space of viable interpretations of reality, which lets people get off the hook for assuming reality must be close-ish to what said racist institutions uphold. That closeness between imagined reality and the reality white supremacy wishes to impose is what allows for people who aren’t ideologically committed racists to passively accept the brutalization and murder of marginalized people. “Oh, I can’t support those cruel acts, but the sad reality is they probably didn’t happen for no reason either” is the refrain of the embarrassed white moderate.

The DNA evidence was enough to prove him innocent, he was 100% not guilty.

Really? I’ve seen a protest a week since Oct 6

Yep, not to mention somewhere about 60-70% of Americans disapprove of Israel’s genocide. But the Uncommitted Movement just endorsed Kamala Harris. UAW had endorsed Joe Biden months ago after no concessions wrt Gaza. The distance between where western leftists lie and the radical actions that are actually necessary to stop the genocide of the Palestinian people, COVID, and climate collapse is immense. What do you think happens to that 60-70% figure when you break down the effects of the collapse of American empire? Do you think anywhere more than a miniscule number of Americans currently stand in solidarity with the aims of the Axis of Resistance of complete eradication of the Zionist entity and American presence from Western Asia? Or are they just sad because they saw Palestinians being murdered, but will just as easily become outraged by whatever propaganda tells them to be angry about China or Russia next?

What does this tell us about COVID? Upthread there is already criticism of the individualistic approach of criticizing non-mask-wearers and prescription of new measures for the COVID conscious community to demand. HEPA filters, better ventilation, etc. But the thing these issues have in common with the failure of western anti imperialism, is that if we can’t even get the basic knowledge across to a critical mass of people, as to make them make changes in their ordinary routines and daily behavior, then we obviously have a nearly impossible task ahead of us when tackling systems that have defence mechanisms built into them, much hardee defence mechanisms than simple force of habit.

Does that mean that the most effective strategy is to scream at people until they change their minds about the small stuff, then get together to scream about the big stuff? Obviously not, that strategy is ineffective on its own and I agree with you there. But when immunocompromised comrades’ lives are on the line, of couse I’ll scream at people who should get it because it’s patently absurd that I have to explain basic facts that we already understood a couple months into the pandemic to people that are supposed to be materialists.

Waves ARE coming around again

99% of Americans would rather have all Palestinians get killed by Israel than see a 10% drop in the S&P 500 from arms divestment that’d be reflected in their retirement portfolio. Does that mean that communists have to bend over and not call out the bloodthirsty settlerbrained nonsense that the vast majority of people believe? Do we have to be nice to people who are committing violence against the disabled and elderly because they happen to be the overwhelming majority? Do we have to extend that politeness to online spaces that are supposed to be for likeminded people yet still appear to be full of the same plague rat mentality?

Yes, it’s on my list for sure! Dyson Sphere Program has a big update coming though, so I’ll probably finish Satisfactory only to go to Dyson Sphere before I can try Workers and Resources.

Third vs first playthrough of Satisfactory

Hey here’s a quick one, literally the first sentence is a readaptation of the 14 words! Would you look at that!

Oh lol I also am outside of the US so I don’t vote (except I’m voting for Trump by not voting for Kamala, as I’ve been told very often)

There are quite a lot of independent representatives and a handful of independent senators, though for what it’s worth there are still some congresspeople and senators in the Democratic Party that aren’t as disgusting as Harris herself. Many were successfully primaried by AIPAC sponsored candidates this election so they’ll have to run as independents, however.

Vote independent of course, I’d propose you should vote for Claudia de la Cruz from PSL if you live in the states where they’re on the ballot, and probably either Green or write in/don’t vote if they aren’t.

Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory as always

I don’t think you’re wrong in spirit, but we are the “never again” crowd. It’s a good motto to live by and it’s entirely true. The fact that some people hypocritically use it to defend the genocidal state of Israel doesn’t take away from how the rest of us should continue the remembrance of the Holocaust and vow to never allow genocide to happen again. Being Opposed to “never again” is something that you shouldn’t do, even ironically.

At least in Star Wars they explain the context with the scroll at the start of the movie, libs think that Ukraine literally popped into existence in 2022.

Do you think the exodus has happened as a result of Maduro’s policies, or the American imposed sanctions? On what basis do you believe that Maduro is not favored by the public, yet the far right opposition is, the polls with very small sample sizes that showed results similar to what Gonzalez is claiming?

The truth is that Maduro has popular support from every part of Venezuelan society save for the reactionaries who wish for private oil companies to run the country again. I don’t know if you speak Spanish or are from LatAm, but the difference in ideology between wealthier, English speaking Venezuelans and the less fortunate who only speak Spanish is enormous. The numbers that the right is claiming are only feasible if you’ve only ever talked with the upper crust of Venezuela, who see Maduro and Chavez as cruel despots who took away their rightful position in a stratified society. Same as the latifundio owners in Cuba, or the mob, the casino owners, etc. If that is the class of people you interact with, you might come away thinking all Venezuelans hate Socialism. If you talk with the workers you’ll get the opposite impression, and one group obviously outnumbers the other and is being suppressed by this attempted coup.

No one is telling you you need to do violence, though. No one in Lemmygrad or Hexbear believes that the time to take to the street and start shooting is right now, obviously it wouldn’t achieve anything and would just be a waste of life, that’s why fascists are the ones committing mass shootings. What we believe is that when the contradictions mount to the point that the ruling class clashes down on its opposition with violent force, we need to be organized and ready to carry out the revolution come hell or high water, like every single socialist revolution in the past. Whether or not you personally want to participate is irrelevant because the historical process in which capital undermines its own existence is inevitable, some amount of time from now the crisis of capitalism necessarily must reach a point where its contradictions can’t be reconciled anymore and either the ruling classes succeed at preserving the system, or the workers succeed in transforming it into something new. Furthermore, regardless of your own participation in the violence necessary to maintain capitalism right now, that violence is happening anyway, and it’s orders of magnitude larger than the violence that the left is capable of, even if we were the bloodthirsty maniacs some liberals claim us to be. The black book of communism claims that communism’s death toll nears 100 million, but every 10 years far more than 100 million people die because of preventable illnesses, hunger, and conflict, which are all direct effects of the decaying economic system. If you reject to resist that system, then you’re complicit too, even when so little is asked of you.

Moralists don’t really have beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child’s toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded. Centrism isn’t change – not even incremental change. It is control. Over yourself and the world. Exercise it. Look up at the sky, at the dark shapes of Coalition airships hanging there. Ask yourself: is there something sinister in moralism? And then answer: no. God is in his heaven. Everything is normal on Earth.

Although I’m sure if they had anything they had to actually run (like a country) they’d be an absolute horror show of fighting, arguing, and bloodbathing each other until they got to the point where the strongest survived and could impose their vision of utopia on the masses.

China is currently installing the equivalent of 5 nuclear power stations’ worth of solar and wind power every week.

Meanwhile in the west AOC and Bernie groveled at the feet of the democratic party by endorsing Biden’s genocidal regime and all they got in return was Biden announcing a plan to cap rent increases at 5%, which can only go through if they win the next election… against a fascist candidate who is far ahead of Biden in almost every swing state.

See why we want revolution?

What? What other groups make up the left then? Do they wield political power? Have they ever gotten to wield political power? Because the only left that has ever gotten to wield political power and use it to liberate the working people from capitalist oppression are the ones who were willing to pick up a gun and fight.