I am exciting for driving electric. In part because of the environmental impact (which has its nuances as is clear from the discussions below). But also because of the comfort and silence during the drive.

So yeah I would really prefer electric over ICE.

No denying that

Did you see the new Prius design? Dear god it looks fast almost like a bugatti. Hats of to Toyota for making the nerd mobile sexy !

I don’t need to tow anything. Just a big boot for the stroller and all the baby stuff.

Thanks you for your advice!

Thanks for your advice. The enyaq is the same car, just 18 cms longer.I think we will choose this one in the end.

Hello thank you for tour commentaar, But i dont think this is entirely true. Looking on the internet I find many sources like this one:

https://www.npr.org/2024/05/09/1250212212/ev-batteries-environmental-impact

It is stated here that EVs are indeed worse for the environment when being built, however in the long term they catch up to petrol cars and when disposed off have a net positive effect.

Yes it is true that the car size is a problem. But this is also true for large and heavy combustion engine cars. So as this article also states: it would be best to buy a small EV with limited battery capacity to reduce environmental impact. That being said: I am going to buy a larger one so your argument is at least more true in my case.

Additionally I do think electric cars are the future. But maybe not with Li-ion batteries. We need lighter and more energy dense alternatives which are currently not (yet) available. By investing in our electrical infrastructure now and adopting electric cars now, even though they are only marginally better than combustion engine cars, we are moving to a greener future. By sticking with combustion engine cars, there is only a dead end in 50 something years even if we would ignore climate change.

Also before someone brings up hydrogen cars: hydrogen has its own challenges and H2 cars are in fact also electric cars with electric motors. So hydrogen which is lagging behind in battery development may also profit from the development of EVs. Personnaly I think hydrogen will not become very interesting for consumer cars, but rather for trucks, boats and other heavy duty vehicles.

I don’t mind myself a little bit of Porsche but in terms of the wagon vs SUV discussion. The Porsche has an average milage of 167 wh/km while the enyaq coupe base a milage of 168 wh/km. This difference is insignificant if you ask me. Furthermore the Porsche weighs 2165 kg while the enyaq weighs 2140 kg. So the enyaq is actually lighter! (All data from EV database).

So the fact that the enyaq is an SUV doesn’t seem to matter here?

I’m listening. Do you have any specific recommendations? As I mentioned the wagons I know off with similar specs don’t rally have any significant advantages in terms of kWh/km or weight. Only Tesla has a real edge here and not buying Tesla is one of the reasons for this community to exist right?

Exactly, this is my problem. And getting a car with less range is not really am option as I want to use the car for going on holidays etc. I could also keep my petrol car and get something light and aerodynamic with less kwhs for daily use. But having two cars is financially unattractive and my petrol car is relatively small. This way I end up with two cars with insufficient boot space for my family to go on holiday for example.

Thank you for your answer. I agree with you, getting the parts is done from all over the world. But it does mean that a larger part of the money I pay stays in the EU right?

With regards to the comment on the SUV. I cannot disagree with you. The weight of most cars is a large issue. In terms if performance I don’t think specifically the Skoda under performs much compared to for example the VW ID.7 which is more of a station wagon. Do you have any suggestions with regards to a more lightweight car, with at least ~70kwh capacity from a European brand?

Thanks for your comment. I think we will eventually choose the Skoda. The design of the tavascan is a bit too much for a family car anyways.

Thanks for the suggestion. I’m going to compare it to the other suggestions.

I’m going to look into it! Thanks!

Thanks for your answer! I am considering this one, since it is easy but the privacy thing being unknown is a concert.

So i’d promised To report on my experience. I have testridden the Skoda enyaq and discussed the price difference with the Skoda elroq with the salesman. The car seems almost identical to the enyaq just slightly shorter. The price difference is mostly due to the fact that Skoda is really pushing the elroq and not due to something technical. It does seem however that the elroq has some options that cost extra, which the enyaq has in the equivalent edition. An example would be the “clever pack” in the business edition. Which costs ~2000 Euros extra for the elroq business but is included in the equivalent enyaq business edition. So when you would want the same specs, the difference would become slightly less, but it remains significant.

That being said: I’ve testridden the Skoda enyaq, cupra tavascan, Nissan ariya, and a Kia EV3. The driving experience of the Skoda and cupra is far superior To that of Nissan and kia (and yes i know, the Kia is significantly cheaper So you should Take that into account).

The cupra tavascan is really technically similar To the enyaq (coupé) and is worth the consideration if you think the enyaq is too expensive. Personally i am still in doubt between the tavascan and the enyaq coupé. My Main objections To the tavascan are the design, which is a bit too extreme for my taste, and the fact that it is built in China. I prefer a car that is built here in the EU, which the enyaqs are (Czechia). However for similar specs the price difference is 10.000 euro… So I have to think about if my principles are worth this amount of money.

Hope this helps you as well!

I absolutely hated both Dune Movies… Such a boring and in my opinion incoherent mess. My jaw dropped when i found out it was So universally highly rated. It still makes me angry when i think about it.

Thanks for your comment. I will go to a dealership and test drive both and actually see/feel the difference.

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Thanks! I have To say, the recommended Brands are somewhat dubious…apperently none of the larger Brands want you to do this to their phones…