Also thoughts are, maybe I’ll start streaming or something in due time (won’t tie whatever I do to here lmaooooo though… also because on some levels I just ain’t 100% with here- who is after all, we’re leftists). (also, ah woops, meant not 100% on hex- well disaster scatterbrain as usual myself)

But basically: if one thinks about this, while having good mental health and chilling with comrades is praxis, presenting an approachable entry to leftism or to recognizing and tangibly pursuing basic decency and all that jazz is also praxis (Hex and the Grad are nice but def infinitely less approachable than a “less political” space, or rather it’s more for really showing off your power level and effortposting more often than not for me anyways). And introducing material dialectics, historical dialectics, etc to people even when not coating it with Marxism or leftism (but shifting people to understand the world with such a concept as a possibility/frame of reference) is praxis which then leads to the next step, this doesn’t even have to be with talks on “”“politics”“” (it always leads to it, everything is political, etc. I know- but then, it’s a sliding slope that both gets people in, but then also has to be navigated for most and def from the sounds of it for many here for their mental health, myself included). Though then there have been infinite numbers of people who pursued or are pursuing exactly just that, so is nothing new- but figured would just ramble this here since had real good chat with an IRL friend I’ve not talked to much in a long-ass while who def isn’t a commie or wasn’t even quite a leftist (probably brought her to the mindset somewhat just from talking this to remind her the broader context of her/our conditions rather than just blaming ourselves and dwelling in misery as the system promotes).

Well we can always make a non-den, even some (“no connection other than vetted or originally met from the grad”) chill space with blackjack and red guards 😎😎😎

Woah, what :o

Maybe we could reclaim that for a start, at least on some level :o it’s cool that there already was such a initiative!

Not in reaction to the death of the dunk comms whatsoever, tbh (though if anything, the dunk comms were a part of the- probably somewhat bad or unhealthy and stressing vibe of Hexbear/Grad culture/experience that this is supposed to provide a chud-free alternative to. In the sense that always focusing on chuds’ terrible takes, or seeing them up and remembering how shit things are sometimes- sucks like hell.

It leaves me tired, as well. It left someone else tired that was chatting to, or left many actually in hindsight. Which is what led to my proposing this. Like- we’re all(?) dealing with the same heavy shit, now admittedly I have a lot of that dunk culture and general brainworms (as well as cool based gossip/not being opposed to being a non problematic bully to shitlibs aspects) myself- also this doesn’t have to and shouldn’t be centered around me (imo people should probably also grab their own friends from here for such spaces as well as collaborating on a main chill comm).

Basically- the election season, or even prior to that- the past few years, has been tiring. I think it’s safe to say we need a (vetted) space separate and the healthier I get, the more selective (not that I’d leave, this is literally one of if not the best space online) my interactions here get, somewhat? Because while my beliefs and actions have not changed, I also begin prioritizing my own development and mental health to become the best comrade I can be if that makes sense?

Sorry for the spiel but yeah

As the one who is pushing the idea- on one hand, pretty much

Though on the other hand, it’s simply because the political spaces (which would still exist and which would be ideally part of the vetting process/exist as part of a somewhat-framework) will naturally be stomped on when trying to congregate in certain platforms, and also because constantly being in the environment in- well particularly Hexbear perhaps, I feel the Grad is somehow more conversational despite the fact we’re mostly effortposting- but uh, is also frankly very unhealthy, probably?

In hindsight, I don’t know how to crosspost on the Fediverse and that’s probably pretty obvious

Same, honestly I would even say I tend to hate them more.

At least with many (not all) of the openly “”“honest”“” fascists, you can see where they’re coming from even if they’re repulsive people, you can see what ideological brainrot and perhaps even traumas have led them down their path. At the core of liberalism on the other hand is a lack of principles altogether, a lack of anything other than infinite selfishness and arrogance.

Pretty much, the only ones who want such a war are the west. It’s really remarkable TBH, the entire rest of the world is, however flawed, seeking peace.

They still have a bourgeoisie but there is major proletarian influence.

I think this is where you get it wrong (IMO). They may have a bourgeoisie, but those are not running the show. Personally I would put it as- “They still have a dictatorship of the proletariat but there is some bourgeois (influence/existence tolerated in favor of development over dogmatism)”

The levers of finance remain in the hands of the state. The levers of industry remain in, and where not, accountable to, the hands of the state. The party itself actively works to punish corruption both within and outside of itself, has mass grassroots participation/membership, and evaluates itself and local government/cadres/etc based on tangible improvements in the livelihoods of the masses.

Thanks! You too Oppo!

It’s Pakistan’s national animal, the Markhor goat!

Based king comrade

Couldn’t agree more to everything you said.

I think a lot of people see it that way, a culture they traded for dollars and a box set of Friends

And when you put it that way, oof. Not white but my parents traded much of theirs off for the bible and that didn’t turn out well (as an understatement). Europe and the west will be spending a long time recovering, or trying to recover, from the “whiteness” they inflicted on themselves.

As someone whose partner is white I think I understand them a bit better seeing your comment as well. For me even if I wasn’t raised in it and reconnecting with it is something I’ll be doing all my life as a result, the identity and pride in it has always been strong (thanks to being a minority- the choice is either pride or shame IMO). I’ve often thought being white and having such easy assimilation must be both a blessing and a curse- but seeing you put it that way makes it sound even more wretched yet.

You too! :D

Wholly agree, but my comment was in regards to the fears of “white replacement/etc” in Europe. Your description of how it was in Yugoslavia is a great example of what true diversity and civilization is supposed to be IMO- in comparison to the western notion of the ethno-state (or white nation-state) and where they reject the end result of people and cultures intermingling (ie. how ridiculous “”“white genocide”“” by… miscegenation, immigration, etc is). Yugoslavia was how it should be, and what I described in my prior comment is how the west divided, conquered, and carved up the nation IMO.

Honestly IMO I think Russia and the BRICS nations could be a step towards the direction where these immigrant populations are more of a boon to their original countries than not. Russia and China in particular are two countries that could be and are doing a hell of a lot to not only export their economic/industrial model (and also collaborate academically, etc) abroad, but also bring people from around the world to see it in action, to see the culture, etc, and develop ties with them firsthand.

People are not just “lost” once they leave, and that this has often been the case is absolutely intentional by the west (destabilization, imperial plunder, etc) making the migrants’ home countries destitute and dangerous in comparison, etc. And the knowledge of development and connections between people can absolutely be exercised for good and the benefit of both nations involved, particularly when they can return to their home countries with the assistance and support in recreating or building upon what they saw abroad (something the west has always interfered in on their part).

Both countries are working extensively with the global south, China with its countless BRI/etc projects and Russia as well in its Soviet history as well as presently with security assistance, debt relief/etc, and even helping build a nuclear power plant in Burkina Faso as one highlight that comes to mind (I’m sure there are others, just haven’t looked into it). There’s no reason that all this training/experience/etc could not be increased with talent coming to these countries to study, or with large student/worker exchanges to really develop a culture of solidarity and multipolarity. And if people wind up staying- particularly those from much less developed or unstable countries- there’s still no reason they cannot be to the benefit of both countries in facilitating increased trade and cooperation, or even returning with Russian/Chinese/BRICS/etc support in due time to further develop their home countries in the end.

IMO while you’re not entirely incorrect, you’re thinking of things n the zero-sum model the west has imposed upon the world- there are other opportunities available, and the Soviet Union’s history of doing similar, or China’s presently (both without the mass immigration bits, though some immigration did and does occur) are examples of it. It’s a more complex and in the short-to-medium-term, more expensive process than the western way of doing things, but I think the end result will be far better for everyone involved.

Agreed, Russia has its golden opportunity to revive and recover at least in part from shock therapy. Now if only they’d take it…

Fingers crossed- admittedly while I of course am on the opposite side of these racists, hopefully someday they shall wake up and find themselves minorities or only minor majorities in their countries. not because it is “racially better/superior,” but because the diminishing of the cores in this aspect can only ever be a good thing and I’m all for it (and karma is hilarious)

Serves them right for having such a weak, pathetic, and completely artificial concept of “”“whiteness”“” which falls into chaos when their cartoonishly strict “phenotype” is deviated from, or when someone is Muslim, etc…

Admittedly, were it not for voices like those of Norman Finkelstein, Max Blumenthal, and Aaron Mate among others (and anti-Zionist Jews I’ve talked to or seen online and in person) it would be hard not to as well. Even as is it is- not hard exactly, but it is a matter certainly resisting and reeling myself back from the instinct when I do see such absolute vileness draped in Judeo-washing (no different from pinkwashing/etc I guess) Zionism.