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  • Objectively, huh?

    Yes huh

    I can have a package installed by the terminal before Discover (the GUI for installing packages) even opens

    Just lying again. You’d have to go and search what words to type in first.

    And going to a website to download an executable to install a specific piece of software, which you need to give permission when executing to get through the firewall because (to your system) it’s just some random executable, isn’t?

    I don’t know what you aren’t understanding about this. All 3 OSs have package managers that function similarly. What I’m talking about is when the software is not available in the package manager

    Then having that executable check for updates when launched and sending you to the website to download a new installer

    You’ve really never used Windows before, have you? That’s once again not how it works. Maybe give it a go and come back after you’ve got some experience.

    Is Microsoft paying you?

    You could make an argument for such a thing insofar as time is money. And like they say “Linux is free so long as your time is worth nothing.”








  • That’s not how you install stuff on Linux normally

    It’s not how you “normally” install stuff on Windows or Mac either. But often times the software you need isn’t available in a package manager. If everything was available as a flatpak I would take it all back, but that doesn’t even remotely resemble reality.

    I find that faster and easier than using a GUI

    It is neither of those things. Objectively.

    the GUI option is there and dead simple and easy for people who can’t be asked to learn how to use the most basic tools on their computer.

    The phrase you’re looking for is “can’t be arsed” but you’re wrong anyway. The problem is not that we “can’t be arsed”, the problem is that it’s an unnecessarily convoluted and unintuitive process.









  • Sure, if downloading onto a thumb drive and rebooting a few times is hard becase you expect your OS to be preloaded then maybe but that wasn’t even your point.

    You’re right. It wasn’t. Not sure why you brought that up.

    Open up the Application Installer, a GUI and type in the obvious bar at the top for what you want, download and good to go.

    You’re intentionally misrepresenting the situation. That’s great if the software you’re looking for is available in the “application installer”. That is very often not the case. If it’s available at all, it’s often a .deb or .rpm or appimage, or you’re expected to compile it yourself from scratch.

    AppImages won’t even run without some fuckery. And when you do that, they still have no icon and can’t be pinned in your app tray. Sure, you can install Gear Lever to greatly simplify this process if you know about it but it’s not typically not installed by default, which makes this process completely unintuitive.

    And if they only make a .deb available, and you’re running Fedora, well fuck you.

    These are all complications that simply don’t exist on Windows or Mac.





  • that sounds like you dont understand or just dislike the process and conflate that with difficulty

    LOL and what exactly else would you call that? They’re random to me. I don’t know them, I don’t want to know them, I just want it to work like every other sensible OS where I can figure out how to complete basic tasks without needing a computer science degree. That’s what most people want and it’s why Linux will remain a niche OS by nerds and for nerds, because that’s the way they like it, which is fine, but let’s not try to gaslight people into believing there’s no reason people might want something else.