It’s not about changing their minds, it’s about keeping them from influencing others. But yeah, that obviously wasn’t effective either.

If you dunk chunks of raw bear in it like an Oreo, you sure can!

Go ahead. Let your anti science cultists get themselves sick. I don’t fucking care anymore.

It feels like we’re living in the middle of one of those cultist documentaries, where 29 years from now the stupid fucks that survive are going to be on camera going “I know it sounds weird, but it was really compelling at the time”. Except this cult doesn’t even have fun drug fueled orgies.

Yep. I thought fighting the constant barrage of disenfranchisement was important during the election year (sigh). They were out in arms trying to disenfranchise as many progressive/leftists as they could. Fighting them was important to keep voters from throwing the bath out with the bathwater due to an imperfect reality.

Well, we lost. Now I can mute these pieces of shit who are gleefully watching the world burn and trolling with “it would have happened anyway under Harris!”.

This thread has tripled my block list already, and it’s going to be huge by the end of the month.

Yeah, you can fuck right off too. The news is already full of evidence that Trump is explicitly enabling Isreal to do wayyyy worse. Just like we all told you.

I’m done arguing in good faith with you asshats. Mods can remove my posts, ban me, whatever. Giving you clowns free reign to canvas lemmy with bad faith arguments just because they are borderline civilly worded is what helped disenfranchise the small slice of the internet lemmy represents.

Fuck you and fuck off. I’m done.

Eh. Fuck off. I really don’t care anymore.

You chose this. You knew exactly what was at stake, you knew who Trump was beyond any shadow of a doubt, you knew he was going to fully enable Isreal to wipe your family off the face of the earth. You knew.

I fought all the bad faith arguments flying around here and beyond. All the “never genocide” bullshit. Every day, for the better part of a year.

But you played stupid fucking games. And now we all have to find out.

It sucks because people will suffer. Likely people I care about too. But this bleeding heart “liberal” has been bled dry. I can’t muster any more fucks.

If it makes you feel any better, we’re all actually getting Australianized.

Rupert Murdoch is the cunt largely responsible for the polarizing propaganda passed off as “news” around the western world

Yeah. It’s called negotiating. You start at a number higher than what you’d be happy with, expecting to meet somewhere in the middle.

Why? So that they’re officially convicted so that Trump can pardon them?

How, exactly? They own the courts, and have the presidency, senate, and likely the house. How exactly do we fight back? America gave them the authority to do anything they want that doesn’t require a super majority.

Except local refusal to enforce doesn’t really work with gay marriage. If feds refuse to accept gay marriage, they won’t be able to file jointly on federal taxes, and the protections to Rights for spouses like medical visitation / decisions would have to be repeated locally, which could (would) get challenged and ultimately overruled by SCOTUS

Uh huh. So you do your “homework” and call out that Biden forced the workers to take 1 day of sick leave instead of the 7 that they wanted (at that stage in the negotiations).

I present evidence that it was downgraded from 7 to 1 in the Senate because Republicans rejected 7.

I then present evidence that Biden’s administration leaned on the railroad companies until they in fact gave the majority of railworkers 7 sick days. With quotes on the Union heads attributing those gains to the Biden administration.

And then suddenly 7 days isn’t good enough to call that a “win” in your opinion.

And I’m the hypocrite.

7 isn’t 15, which is what the workers were initially going to strike for (and deserved).

Have you ever heard of negotiating? You don’t start at the price you’d be happy with. The Unions have stated they’re happy with the result, why aren’t you?

You do understand that being honest about Biden’s fuck-ups now can’t do any more damage

What fuck up? Biden averted a major breakdown in supply chain, AND got the workers what they wanted. That’s a win, despite the repeated attempts at framing it as a failure.

And no, I’m not going to spend a day digging through your history. If you’re repeating this gross misrepresentation of facts now, chances are high that you have before.

Well, you failed your homework assignment, then.

Further down your own Wikipedia article

In February 2023, CSX announced a deal to provide four days of paid sick leave annually, plus the option of converting three personal days into additional paid sick time with two unions.

Citation from your own linked article

Which also clearly states that the original agreement that included 7 days was shot down by Republican senators, which is why the 1 sick day had to be the first iteration. And also includes details on how Biden’s administration continuing pressure on the railroad companies that led to 7 days paid sick leave for two unions 3 months later, and then ultimately yielded 7 sick days for the majority of railroad union workers by half a year later.

But yeah, keep intentionally misrepresenting recent history. It helped elect the guy who is so anti worker that he habitually stiffs his own workers of overtime, or refuses to pay them at all.

The “fight for $15” (minimum wage increase) has been going on for so long with zero [Federal] success that, due to inflation, it ought to be renamed “fight for $30” by now.

And the side that won has been fighting the minimum wage hike for “so long”. Who’s the enemy of the working class again?

The lip service given in supporting unions was belied by how Biden fucked over the railroad workers.

This is a lie that has been repeated time and time again. He fast followed the end of the strike with helping the workers get exactly what they wanted. He aided their negotiations AND got our supply lines back on line.

Inequality (the gap between the working class and the 1%) is continuing to spiral out of control and the Democrats had very little to say about stopping it. It’s important to remember that “tax the rich” was only supported by the progressive subset of the Democratic Party.

Again, which party is it giving the mega wealthy tax breaks? Who is appointing billionaires to run the government? Who controlled the House and prevented tax reform from going through?

We need zoning reform coupled with switching from property tax to land-value tax, to stop enabling the hoarding of underdeveloped property by protecting it from market forces (i.e. real reforms to make housing affordable again).

That is state level reform. Obviously.

We also need things like vigorous enforcement of anti-trust law and consumer protection laws, so that the public feels (and is) less exploited by corporations.

No argument there, but which party is constantly eroding our current regulations that protect consumers and workers?

Huh. I thought it was a fun cameo because of how badly he did, but in a fun way. Like, he butchered gambit.

But still, Channing Tatum is always fun to see, so fuck it.

And yet, the Overton window isn’t wide enough to fight a tiny slice of window, which is “far right fascists”

And in the same breath, they’ll say it’s the Dems fault for supporting genocide.

“Or votes wouldn’t have made a difference in the outcome, but Dems lost because they didn’t do the thing that would have supposedly gotten our vote”

Yep.

No, the difference is the extent of which they will enable genocide. And I’m not just taking about Gaza.

It’s a massive fucking difference.

I thought the Harris campaigns ads to encourage female voters in red counties was incredibly demeaning.

“What happens at the polls stays at the polls”

I’m male, but I cringed hard at those ads.

I wonder if the had good reception at focus groups or something. Maybe it really did play well, I don’t know. But it made it seems like women were too weak to own their opinions or vote.