Pretty much , anyone remember the Florida hurricanes ? No ?, what about the 5 that have hit The Philippines in the last month ? No? What about the mega fires in Canada ? The mega fires in Australia 5 years ago ? Pakostan underwater ? No? And on and on

Like goldfish…

Fcuk Labor, Vote Green!

I started my working life as a Trainee Surveyor back in the 80s and 90s with The Main Roads Dept of Qld. I walked 1000s of kms of roads doing surveys, and encountered many many thousands of dead animals, not just on the road, but the verge, the table drains etc. It was a constant stench of dead animal as I walked and cars roared past…

They greatest ecological crime we have ever commited as a species is the road.

I don’t agree with much of the article at all, he’s approaching it complety from a philsiophical bent which i think is self defeating eg why does Monbiot propose producing vegan food in labs as the only way foward ? Becase farming has gone past a tipping point of sustainability. To then equate how we farm (mega industrial farming) to his litte plot of land is folly. As someone who does much the same its in no way able to sustain 8 Billion people, I don’t even sustian myself, just supplement it. (My parter does lots of the work, i do the grunt work)

I’m not sure what the article even hopes to achieve?.

I do agree that no language is nonsese but I also agree with Diamond that agriculture was the worse of all mistakes, in hindsight…

For me anarchonprmitivism is the only sustainable system to live upon the planet, it’s “perfect” in that respect.

But we only know that with hindsight We can see that for example the Australian First Nations peoples lived 60,000 years in balance. That doesn’t mean no impact, as they killed mega fauna to the pont of extinction but the introduction of any top predator has that effect eg the domestic cat in Australia has sent countless species extinct.

In every society that survived millennia, inequaity was always the key.

A good segue is Tom Murphys series here on the cancer of modernity

https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/2024/07/metastatic-modernity-launch/

So, if they raised you well enough to survive into adulthood and you’re not a sociopath, you’re not going to let them starve in the street.

There’s a huge diffeence between a healthy enegaged okder person and living on the street. Most aren’t going to look after you and most aren’t going to see you starve iwb the steeet. You’ll get somethibg on between and basic care from most, it’s why the kids ditch them into to aged care facilities in the developed world.

That’s just an argument that democracy cant work. Because voyers are too feeble minded to discern the wheat from the chaff.

I’d give this some credence if it was a “fool me once” but that’s not what this is.

If voters are gullible fools that we can be easily misled then that does explain why we’re here and why it can never be anything else.

As Orwell opined in an essay in 1937, democracies always tend to fascism if times are tough. Even relatively tough, with the poorest American being better off then the poorest 50% of the planet.

Right behind you my dude.

Grumpy young boomers

Get off my internet!

Maybe the buses are trees and they plan to put seating under as they grow ?

Interesting related article here.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/nov/06/warn-valencia-government-flooding

I counted 8, i think you’re rigging the polls/s

I have been considering th 16 but open to the 13, can i ask why you went to the 16?

Wjy the 13 over the 15? i have been considering the 16

Same, another vote for Local Send.

Gid these are shtty, and in a shitty spot.

I know ved the one on my Gakaxy Nte 9. I had it unlocked before it was out of my pocket or picked up, the one on the Pixel Pro 6 was so bad I got rid if the phone after a month, the Samsung Note22u i am on now sucks but not quite as bad.

Damn it bring it back like the Note 9! Worked 99/100 and was fast.

Helioboard and and add in the gestures?

Ok then, Signal makes more sense.

Indeed, this in the FT yesterday

https://archive.md/ujuyF

If Europe wants to see how Chinese manufacturers could affect its all-important car industry, it could do worse than look to Norway. Fully 94 per cent of cars sold in the Nordic country in October were electric, putting it on course to hit a target of no new fossil-fuel passenger vehicles next year.

Chinese carmakers sold no cars in Norway in 2019; this year so far, they have managed to take 11 per cent market share. Brands such as MG, BYD and Xpeng are common sights on Norwegian streets. Perhaps most telling is that Oslo’s main shopping strip Karl Johans Gate has only one car dealership on it: Nio, a relatively new Chinese brand.

The US and EU have sought to stem the rise of Chinese electric cars with tariffs, but Norway has pointedly refused to follow suit.

Which let’s them run the line at the next election about being tough on crime and only they are up to the task. Win win /s

Well yes, that’s literally the way Conservative governments operate, you’re catagorised as one of them if you’re in the club as a hard working ,upstanding citizen and you’re a grifter if not. They have no time for people they see as “grifters”, which is most people.

The politics of envy sees many who suffer under conservatives vote for them in the hope they too can have somone to look down upon when they are "successful "…any day now.