Hi, I wanted to ask about the police here. I tried to ask for help yesterday, when we wanted to report a thief. I had to call 114 multiple times, because they were busy and asked me to call back… the third time when they asked me to call back again, I told them I’ve been told the same twice before. So they finally talk with me, and tell me they can’t do anything, because we didn’t see the person actually stealing & I have to report it online. We had the thief nearby for the whole time I tried to get a hold of them, but nothing.

I am from Eastern-Europe, where police gets paid less and isn’t as praised as here, but when I want to report something, they immediately do the paperwork and try to help. Why is it so different here? Do I really pay this high amount of tax to be told to report stuff online? Which, by the time I get home and get to sit down in front of my computer to actually report it, is a lost cause.

I am really not sure and been wondering, because this was my first experience here with police, and it was a bit upsetting. Especially the part when they ask me to call back, not even once haha.

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The original was posted on /r/denmark by /u/tinasdf at 2023-07-26 08:20:47+00:00.

  • Dannebot@leddit.danmark.partyOPMBdansk
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    Caro4everx at 2023-07-26 08:31:12+00:00 ID: jthxnqy

    I got assaulted a year ago on the train and the police told me they couldn’t do sh**** not even look at the cameras because he didn’t hit me or make me bleed LOL. So when I die they will investigate, now I know I need pepper spray with me all the time

    • Dannebot@leddit.danmark.partyOPMBdansk
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      povlhp at 2023-07-26 09:03:25+00:00 ID: jti03br

      Verbal assault is not assault. Or the police would have to close the Internet

        • Dannebot@leddit.danmark.partyOPMBdansk
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          Lauritz109 at 2023-07-26 09:44:53+00:00 ID: jti390p

          The first comment quite literally said the person didn’t hit them, so it must be a verbal assault, possibly with the threat of physical violence.

          • Dannebot@leddit.danmark.partyOPMBdansk
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            kas-sol at 2023-07-26 10:48:02+00:00 ID: jti8g0d

            You can still physically assault someone without specifically hitting them.

          • Dannebot@leddit.danmark.partyOPMBdansk
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            spidsnarrehat at 2023-07-26 10:42:54+00:00 ID: jti7zsl

            So if i push you up against a wall without hitting you, that isnt assault in your mind?

            • Dannebot@leddit.danmark.partyOPMBdansk
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              Lauritz109 at 2023-07-26 10:54:00+00:00 ID: jti8zhy

              I see your point, but personally I believe calling police at someone for shoving you is quite an overreaction.

      • Dannebot@leddit.danmark.partyOPMBdansk
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        Caro4everx at 2023-07-26 08:55:19+00:00 ID: jthzhal

        I’m gonna copy paste this reply from another Redditor: better than being dead lol.

    • Dannebot@leddit.danmark.partyOPMBdansk
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      TwitchDanmark at 2023-07-26 09:57:14+00:00 ID: jti481i

      Pretty standard.

      Back when I got kidnapped and assaulted they dropped the case within 24 hours. I’ve never seen so little effort put into something seemingly serious.

      If I am ever the victim of crime in Denmark again there is a 0% chance it will be reported.

      • Dannebot@leddit.danmark.partyOPMBdansk
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        Caro4everx at 2023-07-26 10:37:53+00:00 ID: jti7k85

        I know right!!! I’m sorry that happened to you. As a woman this is really scary.

        • Dannebot@leddit.danmark.partyOPMBdansk
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          TwitchDanmark at 2023-07-26 11:10:52+00:00 ID: jtiak0e

          Not sure why it would be different for women. Perhaps it’s harder for you to defend yourself, but in terms of violence, men are more likely to be the victim, so overall it is probably pretty even.

        • Dannebot@leddit.danmark.partyOPMBdansk
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          TwitchDanmark at 2023-07-26 12:19:16+00:00 ID: jtihq06

          Eh. Nothing much.

          They heard I had money, so they tried to extort me, beat me up a little, threatened to cut off my fingers, and then gave up when they realized I wasn’t gonna give them anything. I knew who two of them were and told the police, allegedly they interrogated them and then decided to drop the case immediately after. Although I didn’t find that out until weeks later, I thought they were actually working on it.

      • Dannebot@leddit.danmark.partyOPMBdansk
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        Caro4everx at 2023-07-26 08:53:25+00:00 ID: jthzcb0

        He walked close up to me and threatened to hit and yelled so loud, called me ugly names. That’s assaulting!

        • Dannebot@leddit.danmark.partyOPMBdansk
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          povlhp at 2023-07-26 09:04:27+00:00 ID: jti064w

          Intimidating.

          Verbal assault is not an assault in any legal sense.

          But threats are illegal.

          • Dannebot@leddit.danmark.partyOPMBdansk
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            mundjago at 2023-07-26 09:25:11+00:00 ID: jti1r28

            Threats are only illegal if they are threats about either killing the other person or doing great bodily harm. A threat about “normal” violence like a couple of slaps/hits are not illegal.

          • Dannebot@leddit.danmark.partyOPMBdansk
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            IN-DI-SKU-TA-BELT at 2023-07-26 09:22:59+00:00 ID: jti1kvy

            In the UK it is.

            A person is guilty of an offence if, with intent to cause a person harassment, alarm or distress, he—

            • (a)uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour, or
            • (b)displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting,

            thereby causing that or another person harassment, alarm or distress.

            and:

            A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable on summary conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 6 months or a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale or both.]

            https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1986/64/section/4A

          • Dannebot@leddit.danmark.partyOPMBdansk
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            ThereIsAThingForThat at 2023-07-26 09:15:41+00:00 ID: jti112s

            In ANY legal sense?

            Assault is commonly the non-contact part of violence, whereas battery would be the contact.

            https://www.justia.com/criminal/offenses/violent-crimes/assault-battery/

            Assault is typically defined as an intentional act that puts another individual in apprehension of immediate harm. Assault thus criminalizes the threat of harm itself, rather than requiring that actual harm has occurred.

            • Dannebot@leddit.danmark.partyOPMBdansk
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              kaizerSoze999 at 2023-07-26 10:40:49+00:00 ID: jti7tev

              Maybe you can find somthing that is any part of danish legal sense?

              • Dannebot@leddit.danmark.partyOPMBdansk
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                ThereIsAThingForThat at 2023-07-26 11:23:16+00:00 ID: jtibrh8

                Then the original commenter would have to translate “assault” into the Danish word in order to know which definition of assault was being used. In English, threats without physical contact are absolutely covered under “assaults”, so saying that someone assaulted you despite there not being physical contact, in English, would be 100% valid.

                There is a difference between “threats”, as a general concept, and assault which puts the victim in fear of imminent harm. But if you are arguing that Danish criminal law does not use the word “assault” in its definitions then you are correct, but that doesn’t matter because nowhere was it stated that he was assaulted under the definitions set by the Danish criminal code.

    • Dannebot@leddit.danmark.partyOPMBdansk
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      garishlyendowed at 2023-07-26 08:41:22+00:00 ID: jthyfcv

      Pepper spray is illegal unfortunately, youd be charged with assault.

      Funni, eh.

      For the record i am very sorry that happened to you

      • Dannebot@leddit.danmark.partyOPMBdansk
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        securitytheatre at 2023-07-26 08:43:33+00:00 ID: jthyl7j

        possession of a pepper-spray is a violation of the weapons law. Use of the pepper spray is probably battery.

          • Dannebot@leddit.danmark.partyOPMBdansk
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            ragefaze at 2023-07-26 09:40:39+00:00 ID: jti2xiq

            Because getting “assaulted” without physical contact is going to shatter your fragile ego and kill you?

            • Dannebot@leddit.danmark.partyOPMBdansk
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              Bebe_Master-69 at 2023-07-26 09:56:02+00:00 ID: jti44ly

              They never said no physical contact. They said no hitting or bleeding. Huge difference. But even if they didn’t physically touch you, if there was a clear intent of assault whether that be groping your butt or punching you in the face, then yeah. I would rather be charged with battery than go through that trauma. Also why did you put her assault in quotations like it didn’t happen or something. That is honestly so disrespectful and such a shitty thing to do

              • Dannebot@leddit.danmark.partyOPMBdansk
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                ragefaze at 2023-07-26 15:56:03+00:00 ID: jtjcuzg

                So you read it like the police didn’t do anything because they couldn’t see him getting hit or bleeding, but they kicked him and / or hit him with clubs? I think you need to restart your brain.

                The reasonable assumption would be that the he didn’t get hit or kicked or hit with a weapon, but pushed etc. Something less than getting hit. And THAT is why the police weren’t able to do anything.

                Also, getting groped isn’t assault.

        • Dannebot@leddit.danmark.partyOPMBdansk
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          SimonKepp at 2023-07-26 12:42:13+00:00 ID: jtikf1n

          possession of a pepper-spray is a violation of the weapons law. Use of the pepper spray is probably battery.

          Using a pepper spray in justified self-defense is not punishable according to article 19 of the Danish criminal code (straffeloven),but being in possession of one, especially in a public place is a violation of the weapons law, and once, you’ve used it in self-defense, it is hard to deny possession.

    • Dannebot@leddit.danmark.partyOPMBdansk
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      VampiricCatgirl at 2023-07-26 11:25:56+00:00 ID: jtic0yt

      It was the same shit when I got assaulted on a bus by some immigrants. It really seems like they don’t give a fuck about assaults.