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I’ve noticed the phenomenon of humans desentientizing someone by declaring them as “sacred”, which works as a prelude to “sacrifice”. Seems like some very ancient human bullshit based on objectification, but it’s not objectification for commodification, it’s objectification in the service of the ego by trying to convince one’s ego that you’re not a monster, that you’re nice and good.
Man, it’s been a few years since I’ve heard ‘spiritual’ people talk, and I did not miss it at all.
I cut ties with my very best friend, because she went from becoming vegan to believing in tarot cards to full on antivax flat earther who told me that i shouldn’t let my mom do chemo, because she has some good chrystals in like a year or two.
I honestly don’t miss rolling my eyes all day long.
*irrational magic thoughts
(Haven’t watched the video yet); As a spiritually-inclined person who is also vegan, I do think that is something that other religious people need to come to terms with. Particularly when it comes to witchy and neopagan communities, there’s too much (ie., more than zero) interest in reviving the dead practice of animal sacrifice.
On the other hand I would like to see some data on which proportion of people in each religion are vegan. Which belief systems have the highest percentages of vegans, relative to their own populations?
Which belief systems have the highest percentages of vegans, relative to their own populations?
Buddhism and other neighboring systems tend to arrive at veganism being virtuous
That’s also my hunch - that Buddhism in particular has a high percentage of vegans. I still would like to see the data though.
Just to add to the mix: Third Day Adventists encourage going vegan, and quite a few of them are vegetarian. It’s not a huge religion, but I know that they’ve even been studied for their longevity.
I Adventist health studies are amazing.
Except that a strict Buddhist diet is not vegan. Somehow traditional religions always realised that humans need animal protein.
Why am i still alive and healthy when we need animal proteins so bad?
Are you healthy though?
Would you care to elaborate on these “strict buddhists”? Provide sources please.
The myth of people needing animal proteins has been so thoroughly debunked for so long now that anyone still making that claim should not be providing dietary advice without getting properly informed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDC6Q5upKPE
Also the interview you’ve posted is a complete unscientific lunacy and propaganda.
The only animal product you’re required to consume in Christianity is the body and blood of Christ.
Too much mercury from all the fish
Yeah but that was given consensually (ostensibly), so it’s still vegan.
consent is not mentioned in the definition of veganism from the vegan society
It’s implicit in their stance against exploitation. A chicken, for example, cannot give their eggs to a human, with informed consent, and therefor taking their eggs is a form of theft and exploitation.
chickens can’t consent to anything at all. it’s absurd. I oppose exploiting fossil fuel deposits, but that has nothing to do with consent either.
Okay, but that’s a whataboutism and has nothing to do with animals. Think about the lowly bee, for example. People often get tripped up when it comes to bugs and veganism. They’re smaller, and must be dumber right? And anyway their minds work in such an alien way to our own that we can’t assume they even perceive things the way that we do.
And yet if you poke a beehive, the behavior of its inhabitants appears to be something that’s functionally identical to anger, and they begin defending their colony in a way where they seem to be expressing something that strongly resembles a lack of consent to having their home assaulted. So even in this case of such a vastly different kind of animal it’s natural to conclude that any taking of their honey is not wanted - not consented to - and thus is a form of exploitation.
There’s nothing absurd about valuing consent.
it’s fine to value consent. but it’s absurd to talk about consent from something incapable of it.
it’s not a what aboutism.
It would be absurd to mention in any practical context.
What do you mean?
I agree but somehow I think it’s not for the same reason
“Spiritual awakening” you mean joined a cult. Smh
Not necessarily. It can be something as simple as “My spiritual beliefs just happen to align with what I want to do already”. If you want to eat meat, it’s very tempting to find a “spiritual” reason for doing it. Nobody can question you; it’s just what you believe!
Except we need to hold even spirituality to some measurable degree of sanity.
What if someone truly believes that they need to kill someone or a group of people because of their beliefs, that’s not permissible. It’s not rational or logical to let religious beliefs be a free card to do whatever shit they want.
Religion is a fucking cult.
There are established criteria of what defines a cult, and any spiritual belief system is not necessarily a cult, unless it meets all of that criteria.
Spirituality leads people to veganism, don’t let people sow discord for clicks
Did you actually watch the video? He isn’t saying that spirituality is bad. He’s saying that you should be vegan for rational reasons.
