• JimSamtanko@lemm.ee
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    6 months ago

    And I’m sure that’s not who they’re talking about. We all know there are many people her that suggest that no one vote for Biden. I’m sure most can name them.

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      Sure, there absolutely are bad faith arguers but there is also a significant slice of the population that is deathly afraid that Biden will pull a fucking Hillary. He has worked with the DNC to effectively eliminate any other candidates from entering the primaries and if his fucking hubris gets Trump elected he should bear all the blame.

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          You mean which candidates publicly announced an intent to challenge a sitting president in a primary and torpedo their political career?

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            So then how did he keep them from running? You need to choose a lane and stick with it. Either he purposefully stopped them from running, or they chose not to because of Status-quo.

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              He didn’t invite challengers or step back in advance of the primary. There is such a thing as soft power and he used it to make sure there wasn’t a real primary.

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                When has any candidate ever invited challengers?

                Candidates don’t “step back”, challengers step up. If nobody wants to because the candidate appears certain to win the primary, don’t blame the candidate.

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                He doesn’t dictate the who runs. You said yourself. Career suicide, remember?

                We’re done with this now.

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                  Yea, that’s an immensely naive view of the world. It’s got real “bootstraps” energy: “Why don’t those politicians who are trying to enact change just get ostracized from their party and the funding base while facing up against a multi-billion dollar political machine that will grind them into dust and then primary them for their disloyalty at the earliest opportunity.”

                  You’re right. They’re absolute cowards. They should make more principled stances that hamstring them from actually improving lives - its what Marjorie Taylor Greene would do and we love her. /s

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                    Chose a lane man. When you have, come back and we can discuss this. Otherwise, as I said…. We’re done here.