It would suck for the rubes who can be fooled into taking poison, but it would be kinda based if RFK just legalized everything. Reality might turn to shit, but at least we can get high however we want!
I’m not even talking about the fun drugs, but things like a bottle of vitamin supplements, over the counter, or prescription medication. Sure, you can test a batch, but will that mean testing one pill out of each bottle? Or could consistency drop enough that one pill might not say much about the others in the bottle?
Will testing resources get stretched to the point where many won’t be able to afford them if we’ll need to test each bottle of pills we buy to make sure the producer didn’t just stick a nice label on lead pills to make a quick buck and disappear in the night before the fallout?
That was the context of this conversation though. The original comment was about legalizing/decriminalization of psychs, and the reply that you originally responded to was about legalizing (one would assume based on the subject matter) other recreational drugs.
That’s fair and to be clear, I wasn’t intending to contradict what you were saying but to clarify the scope of my comment was intended to be “anything in a package with a label where you trust that the contents match the label”.
I doubt that. Erasing stigma is an important step in researching these drugs. Reclassification so that they are accessable for research is another. However, proper regulation is required so that you know what you’re getting and in the right dosage. The incoming administration want more deregulation. That will mean that quality of supply will be less reliable.
We are still dealing with increaing outbreaks of foodborne illness because of deregulation from the last Trump government. And this affects more than just Americans. I’m in Canada, but because we import food from the US, we are also exposed to these illnesses. My immunocompromised sister had a bout of listeria from food that she should have been able to trust. (I can’t remember which food at the moment). I still have granola bars in my home that I haven’t disposed of yet which were part of a separate recall.
Proper regulation works quietly for the average person. When it’s working correctly, you don’t notice the myriad of ways that you’re kept safe every day. It’s when it fails that we notice.
Illegal drugs are already a black market and that’s the context of this reply thread. Feel free to reread it if need be. Nowhere did I say that I agree with RFK’s approach broadly as you seem to imply. The comment I made was clearly about illegal drugs, responding to a reply thread about legalization of illegal (recreational) drugs.
And my comment is that, with deregulation, you probably won’t be sure about the content, quality, or dosage of legal drugs. If it were properly regulated, you’d be safe.
Also, nowhere did I imply that you agree with his approach. You asked a question and I answered it. I don’t have any opinion about your opinion about him. I gave you my opinion about him, the incoming administration, and the upcoming fallout.
No, he won’t. Or he might, ostensibly, but they will never be propery researched and they will never be properly regulated, so you won’t really know what you’re getting or how it should be administered, so good luck with that.
The only thing you can reliably count on with the incoming administration is that whatever they are doing, they are doing to make themselves and their friends wealthier, at the expense of the rest of the public. Unfortunately, that doesn’t only mean finacial expense.
Don’t give me hope RFK. Like you’re really gonna legalize psychedelics for therapy.
It would suck for the rubes who can be fooled into taking poison, but it would be kinda based if RFK just legalized everything. Reality might turn to shit, but at least we can get high however we want!
I wonder how hard it will be to tell the good stuff from the poison. Depending on just how unregulated they go, labels might not even match contents.
Probably easier than now considering the decrease in stigma and increased impetus for testing as well as elimination of the black market.
I’m not even talking about the fun drugs, but things like a bottle of vitamin supplements, over the counter, or prescription medication. Sure, you can test a batch, but will that mean testing one pill out of each bottle? Or could consistency drop enough that one pill might not say much about the others in the bottle?
Will testing resources get stretched to the point where many won’t be able to afford them if we’ll need to test each bottle of pills we buy to make sure the producer didn’t just stick a nice label on lead pills to make a quick buck and disappear in the night before the fallout?
That was the context of this conversation though. The original comment was about legalizing/decriminalization of psychs, and the reply that you originally responded to was about legalizing (one would assume based on the subject matter) other recreational drugs.
That’s fair and to be clear, I wasn’t intending to contradict what you were saying but to clarify the scope of my comment was intended to be “anything in a package with a label where you trust that the contents match the label”.
I doubt that. Erasing stigma is an important step in researching these drugs. Reclassification so that they are accessable for research is another. However, proper regulation is required so that you know what you’re getting and in the right dosage. The incoming administration want more deregulation. That will mean that quality of supply will be less reliable.
We are still dealing with increaing outbreaks of foodborne illness because of deregulation from the last Trump government. And this affects more than just Americans. I’m in Canada, but because we import food from the US, we are also exposed to these illnesses. My immunocompromised sister had a bout of listeria from food that she should have been able to trust. (I can’t remember which food at the moment). I still have granola bars in my home that I haven’t disposed of yet which were part of a separate recall.
Proper regulation works quietly for the average person. When it’s working correctly, you don’t notice the myriad of ways that you’re kept safe every day. It’s when it fails that we notice.
Illegal drugs are already a black market and that’s the context of this reply thread. Feel free to reread it if need be. Nowhere did I say that I agree with RFK’s approach broadly as you seem to imply. The comment I made was clearly about illegal drugs, responding to a reply thread about legalization of illegal (recreational) drugs.
And my comment is that, with deregulation, you probably won’t be sure about the content, quality, or dosage of legal drugs. If it were properly regulated, you’d be safe.
Also, nowhere did I imply that you agree with his approach. You asked a question and I answered it. I don’t have any opinion about your opinion about him. I gave you my opinion about him, the incoming administration, and the upcoming fallout.
Please go find where I asked a question.
Being able to grow mushrooms legally would be fucking sick and would make the next four years a bit less shitty.
No, he won’t. Or he might, ostensibly, but they will never be propery researched and they will never be properly regulated, so you won’t really know what you’re getting or how it should be administered, so good luck with that.
The only thing you can reliably count on with the incoming administration is that whatever they are doing, they are doing to make themselves and their friends wealthier, at the expense of the rest of the public. Unfortunately, that doesn’t only mean finacial expense.