After receiving the text for the ad quoted above, a representative from the advertising team suggested AFSC use the word “war” instead of “genocide” – a word with an entirely different meaning both colloquially and under international law. When AFSC rejected this approach, the New York Times Ad Acceptability Team sent an email that read in part: “Various international bodies, human rights organizations, and governments have differing views on the situation. In line with our commitment to factual accuracy and adherence to legal standards, we must ensure that all advertising content complies with these widely applied definitions.”

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      I don’t think there’s anything “goofy ass” about that. Quaker Oats Company was explicitly named (and used a logo) to cause people to make that mistake.

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        It’s not intentionally deceptive, they literally called it that because one of the founders admired the Quakers.

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          qualities describing Quakers, such as integrity, honesty, and purity, were traits that he wanted customers to associate with the company’s product

          I dunno how else to describe that but intentionally deceptive.

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            I dunno how else to describe that but intentionally deceptive.

            Yeah, it IS part of marketing after all.

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          I mean, they wanted to cash in on the positive reputations Quakers had in business. While not being Quaker. And not implementing any of their business practices AFAIK. Plus their logo is of a traditional Puritan and has nothing to do with Quakers.

          I think “deceptive” is a fair word.

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        Which is especially disheartening because Quakers are some of the most truly liberal and loving Christians you can find. The fact that they’re willing to call this a genocide evidence of that, and unsurprising since their interpretation of the bible is 100% strict non-violence to where they can’t legally be drafted into the military due to their beliefs. Some of the most truly leftist Christians you’ll find.

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          Some of the most truly leftist Christians you’ll find.

          As long as you don’t remember that Nixon was a Quaker.

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            There are also multiple branches of Quakerism. I greatly appreciate the person above speaking about it because they truly covered the way the Quaker meetings I was raised in are and the kinds of people I have spent so much of my life around.

            However, there are other branches that don’t deserve the same praise. There are evangelical Quakers and while they aren’t as bad as what that word usually implies, they also aren’t exactly deserving of the description above. Nixon was born into one of the evangelical Quaker branches.

            Source: grew up Quaker. Literally have a minor degree in Quaker studies, lol. (It’s been a while and I’m not active in any meetings or organizations these days, but I’ll always be grateful for the values it instilled in me and the community I found from it.)

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            There’s a difference between being born into a religion and being a member in good standing.

            Nixon cussed and drank and ordered women and children to be murdered en mass.

            These are not the ideals of a Quacker.

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      i knew from the thread title… doesn’t mean i don’t like your idea better.