This mostly seems pretty achievable in my eyes. Meat consumption is apparently trending down anyway, even without government intervention. The difficult part may be turning farmland into woodland, because how do you get farmers to convert their source of income into land for trees?
This is something that irks me about how we have things setup at the moment. Farming produces food. Put money in, get food out. The notion that it also needs to make money is putting the cart before the horse. Yay capitalism.
to convert their source of income into land for trees?
The correct trees are income. Less than other sources. But I spose that is where gov needs to step in. But well managed wood cultivation is both CO2 absorbing and would reduce the huge transport harm imported wood causes.
Also, wood is getting insanely costly in the UK due to import costs. It may help other industries.
Also wood absorbs more Co2 in early growth so 10-50 year (depending on wood type). Replant and Investments plans in such land can be very effective.
Subsidise orchards like we do open farm land?
(I am not good enough at this law to know if orchards get the farming subsidies, happy to be informed by Lemmy people)
Orchards are very different from woodland. Trees need to be evenly planted and have much more space than woods. Probably better than nothing but it’s not the kind of CO2-sink woodland the CCC is talking about.
I am not good enough at this law
Nor am I. But Do know pre Brexit the EU was funding actual wood land. That is a huge part of the issues farmers have now.
The huge farm subsidies the EU provided were still not replaced or agreed to long after Brexit. I’m not sure if they ever were at all. But farmers were forced to change growing habits with no idea what the gov was going to support.
It was a huge part of way £350m a week was an outright lie. Not only were we not actually sending that much due to discounts. We got a huge chunk back via farm subs, and others.
Still makes me cringe thinking about what we gave up.
Yep. I’m likely older than you. (coincidently bang on the age where the stats placed our votes at 50/50 )
So I was born a few years before we voted to join. And grew up watching most of the benefits becoming a part of UK life. And realise half my generation are fucking insane.
I genuinely think that most people in the UK would rather destroy the planet than give up eating some meat.
destroy the planet
We’re not destroying the planet, we’re destroying our offspring (and those of many other species). The planet will still be covered in life after we’re gone.
This is a point that needs pushing more.
Save the planet is not only false. But less impactful than just save humankind.
Trying to convert humanity back to low meat diets (again a much easier sell and the real issue is mass production). It is more likely if people are convinced it is their children to great grand children that will Suffer/Die/never happen. Rather than suggesting all life will end.
The sun god will still burn. Just like you did after the last great extinction.
Sorry could not resist the silly joke. I’ll go hide in a bottle now
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A high carbohydrate and so high insulin-producing plant-based diet certainly isn’t healthy for me.
What about a low carbohydrate plant-based diet?
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I’m not sure what you mean by "direct"ing you to a diet.
“Eat low amounts of carbohydrates in a plant-based diet.” Is that direction enough?
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Read The China Study and the work by Dr Neal Bernard. Type 2 diabetes can be reversed (not always, but it can be) or reduced. My mum had her dose of type 2 meds reduced by about half when she went on a plant based diet, because her blood sugar went too low on her regular dose.
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Traditional Indian omni diet. You don’t need to go low carb. In fact the desired ratio is 80% carbs, 10% protein, 10% fat. She still had grains and other carbs. It’s about the type of carbs (slow digesting). For example bread will nearly always be high GI because the yeast has done the digestion for you. Whereas white pasta will be lower, because it takes a long time to digest. Carbs are good, as long as it’s the right type of carbs.
People who say they’ve reversed their diabetes by going low carb haven’t reversed it, because it would come right back if they ate carbs. It’s like saying I made my arm fireproof by not holding a flame to it. Whereas going high fibre, low fat, low GI will allow you to still eat carbs without sugar spikes.
As I said, look into the work of Neal Barnard, who has reversed type 2 diabetes without cutting carbs and without any other lifestyle changes besides diet.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FxPSvcv8GXk
You asked to be directed. So I’ve directed you.
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https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/vegan
It’s doable, but very difficult. Requires supplements.
Protein sources are critical in this approach, I would map out the DIAAS scores of the protein sources to make sure it is complete.
A complicating factor is it’s very difficult to hit the micro targets and protein targets and keeping the carbs <20g, so many of the vegan approaches are low carb <100g and not ketogenic
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I think the !plantbased@lemmy.dbzer0.com community is where you need to go to have productive discussions of the plant based options.
Personally I’m biased and I moderate the !carnivore@lemm.ee and !ketogenic@dubvee.org communities.
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I have largely given up on red meat and cow’s milk, I do sometimes have a bit of lamb. It’s definitely doable.
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So you are saying… Thanos was right?
Love beef so much but I could easily cut it down by 30%
You literally said the problem was with insulin producing spikes from carbs, and therefore you can’t eat a plant based diet. I just showed you evidence that you can indeed eat a plant based diet, carbs or not, and maintain healthy blood sugar levels. And can even reverse diabetes.
It was obvious from the beginning you were being totally disingenuous. I gave you the benefit of the doubt, but the fact that you’ll block over such an inoffensive message confirms my initial suspicion about you. You just don’t want to eat a plant based diet and will find any reason not to. You had zero interest in learning and are just here to argue.
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