Groups of neo-Nazis and white supremacists spread antisemitic, white supremacist and anti-LGBTQ messages outside Disney World and in the nearby Orlando, Florida, area Saturday in the latest examples of rising antisemitism in the U.S., officials said.

About 15 people wearing clothing and bearing flags emblazoned with Nazi insignia demonstrated outside the entrance to the Disney Springs shopping center, said the Orange County Sheriff’s Office, which said deputies were dispatched around 10:40 a.m.

According to the Anti-Defamation League, a civil rights organization dedicated to countering extremism, participants carried antisemitic, white supremacist and anti-LGBTQ flags and signs. The group consisted of members of the neo-Nazi groups Order of the Black Sun, Aryan Freedom Network and 14 First, a now disbanded group that has been absorbed into the National Socialist Movement, the largest neo-Nazi group in the U.S., according to the ADL.

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    No one was arrested? I’m not from the US. Is being an open nazi and rallying for hate speech legal?

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      I believe most States in the US draw the line at “(directly) inciting violence” or “creating a disaster” (eg. shouting “Fire!” In a crowded theatre).

      For whatever reasons, shouting “white power” and “Jews will not replace us” while waving swastika flags is not considered “inciting violence” in the US, even though the implications are very clear to everyone. This has allowed Nazis to march in the streets for decades in the US.

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        For whatever reasons

        The reason is cops and judges agree with those reasons.

        Waving nazi flags and using their slogans should be treated as a threat at all times. There is no possible way that anything nazi is not implied violence.

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          I agree, but I wanted to stick to the less disputed parts of the answer. I simply can’t do justice to the topic of US support for Nazi ideology and its extensive history, even though it is a topic well worth researching. Depressing but important, like many other things in this world.

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            At this point I just recommend listening to The War on Everyone audiobook by Robert Evans. It does a pretty great job of spelling out this countries history with fascism

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          If anyone reading this votes Democrat and stands firm in support of gun control, that Nazi piece of shit and his buddies will continue to arm up ignoring the law because said cops are on their sides and will never prosecute them; you might as well lay down and let them fuck you over until you die because you are incapable or too cowardly to arm yourself to protect your community through deterrence.

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        To me it always seemed weird how saying “we should eradicate jews by our own hand” or “we should kill this jew” would probably not be okay because of inciting violence, but saying “we should eradicate jews… Through the law/state” instead is perfectly acceptable and not inciting violence.

        Is one level of indirection really enough to make it okay? The end result is the same.

        This is also why such free speech has problems. If you’re the one spewing that shit it’s all fine and dandy for you, but if you’re the targeted minority what can you do, exactly? Certainly you cannot legally physically defend yourself! You’re just destined to have to defend your literal existence with speech, like jeez. It’s so lopsided.

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          It doesn’t make sense when you look at it through the lens of “violence is a bad thing”, which is what we’re generally led to believe it is about. It does make sense when you look at it through the lens of “xenophobia personally benefits/ed me and my other friends currently in power and I would like to keep it that way but I don’t want to do the dirty work myself”.

          Unfortunately most places have a history of the people in power exploiting other groups of people for their benefit, and this is just one way in which it manifests. It feels weird because we know it isn’t congruent with what we’re taught about how people in a society should behave.

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      Is being an open nazi and rallying for hate speech legal?

      Yes. Ostensibly because of the first amendment, but mostly because cops won’t arrest their off-duty coworkers for doing shit they wholeheartedly agree with.

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        Interesting. I figured with all the fresh anti-nazism immediately after WW2 the US would have made some kind of law against this kind of thing considering just how much people at the time disliked Nazis. Maybe they just thought it wouldn’t happen in the US later on? Or the cold war threat made everyone reprioritize perhaps?

        I’m speaking and thinking from a historical lense regardless of modern politics if that wasn’t clear

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          Nah from what I know of history and I could be wrong about some details - there was a significant portion of our population that were nazi sympathizers among other things - I figure that might be a big reason why it was never truly dealt with

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          Apparently, calling for the extermination/subjugation of whole races doesn’t qualify as “shouting fire in a crowded theatre.”

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      Is being an open nazi and rallying for hate speech legal?

      Yes. Any law making that illegal would be unconstitutional. They’re assholes, but until they do or say something that is part of commiting a crime they still have a right to free speech.

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      In many ways, this comment shows just how impotent the social right has become.

      It used to be the guy at the top of the company that was a racist POS, and now it’s people standing outside the gates lamenting the ‘woke’ corporation.

      That’s quite the progress in a century.

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        It just goes to show that being racist only really limits your market appeal.

        All the woke companies have just realised that everyone’s money is as good as anybody else’s, but it’s better if it’s theirs. Been woke is the logical course of action.

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      I’m curious about this. I’ve literally only heard about how Walt Disney was antisemitic from memes and Family Guy. Is there anything I can actually read about it?

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        It’s hard to find anything definitive, but everything says he was at least as bad as any rich white man in the 1940s, but Walt was a member of the American Nazi party, and in 1938, a month after Kristallnacht, Disney personally welcomed Nazi director Leni Riefenstahl to his studios.

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    Why is it that every time there’s ever a new story about white supremacists the photo looks like a bunch of Neanderthals and why is there always someone with insane face tattoos?

    There are more attractive chimpanzees, how the hell can they claim to be superior.

    They’re not even white, they’re mostly red.

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    This happens way more often than people might think. Every time I’ve visited these idiots are standing just outside the property.

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    “The extremists dispersed after about two hours, and no one was arrested, because they had to get ready for their shifts at the sheriff’s office, the sheriff’s office said.”

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    as you can see this man is wearing a mask and all those tattoos prove that he is a uh… *checks notes* …government plant. a “fed” as they say.