What passing-bells for these who die as cattle?

— Only the monstrous anger of the guns.

Only the stuttering rifles’ rapid rattle

Can patter out their hasty orisons…

– Wilfred Owen

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldOP
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      1 year ago

      Ok, and the comment I replied to said a thing about a man whose name you got wrong which is not as black-and-white as you make it out to be. You don’t get to be free from criticism yourself, sorry.

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        Except it is. He owned slaves throughout his life. That is at complete odds with socialism.

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            And again the initial comment I replied to made that claim which is why we keep returning to it. You then tried to back that up by claiming it was more complex than that because he had a nuanced view on slavery. Im saying it isn’t relevant because he died owning slaves which is at direct odds with every form of socialism I am aware of.

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                If you weren’t backing the claim he was a socialist why did you reply at all? The nuance in his views of his own slave holding would not be germane unless you were backing that claim somehow.

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                  Because I don’t like people who treat history as if it’s a black and white affair. Are you going to apologize for lying?

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                    1 year ago

                    I never lied. Your reply only makes sense if you were defending the claim. Otherwise there would be no need for a response since my claim is accurate that he owned soaves and died owning slaves.

                    If anyone is lying it would be you but I suspect you were just not thinking when you replied.