Meta sparks privacy fears after unveiling $299 Smart Glasses with hidden cameras: ‘You can now film everyone without them knowing’::These stylish shades may look like a regular pair of Ray-Ban Wayfarers, but they’re actually Meta’s new Smart Glasses, complete with two tiny cameras and speakers implanted in the arms. The wearable tech was unveiled by Mark Zuckerberg Wednesday at the 2023 Meta Connect conference in Menlo Park, California, sparking a frenzy online.

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Ok, now you and I are in a private place. Say, a bar. How do I know you’re not recording me?

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      A bar, where the public congregates, sounds like a public place (and would be considered so in my country).

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        I think maybe the terms used are different, but if the bar is a business owned by a private person or company, and is allowed to say who can be in there or not, set dress code, hours, rules about outside food etc, that’s what would be considered a place of business in the US, and those aren’t publicly-owned or considered a public space as far as the rights of those people in that space. I get that “pub” literally means “public” but they aren’t owned by some government entity, you don’t have a “right” to free access to them, and the rules about what can and can’t take place there are set by the private owners.

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          It’s “public”. But that would be the same as filming you in your own house. If it’s a friend you invited over, they could record you and it’s on you to indicate your opposition and kick them out/trespass them should they refuse to comply.

          Now in the private bar, the other patrons are allowed to be there and there’s no law prohibiting them from recording (excepting places like a bathroom of course). If the bar tells them not to record, they can comply or be asked to leave. If the bar doesn’t tell them to leave, it’s on you to leave. Consider if a nazi walked into the bar. They have the right to be a nazi and go to bars. Bars have the right to refuse or provide service to whomever (so long as it doesn’t target a protected class). You have no more right to be at the bar than the nazi or person filming (absent some other condition like the bar telling them to leave).

          Tl:Dr - it’s not public in the legal sense. However civil law takes over.

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            I guess you’re speaking for the USA, or whatever country you live in, but @[email protected] seemed to speak about a different (unspecified) country. We’re left to guess which country…

            (also, Godwin’s law still applies lol)

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      How do you know my phone isn’t just recording you? Doesn’t even have to really be pointing at you to grab audio or perhaps you even in the corner of the frame?

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        I don’t, but it’s far more likely for me to catch you doing it that way than with glasses.

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      The bar is a public place in that they allow in the public. You have no expectation of privacy there.

      However the bar owner as the owner can explicitly ban photography and that’s fine it’s their bar , but they have to explicitly let people know the rules.

      You ever been to a bar or a club? People are talking photos everywhere lol

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        Point of clarification. It’s not “public” in the legal sense. Might be why you’re catching some downvotes. The rest of it is pretty much on point.

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          Thanks for the clarification.

          Perhaps my wording was poor but I’m not sure why people don’t realise that not all places the public go are public so in those places the rules are set up by the owner.

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        Have you ever been to a theater? Taking photos is banned despite allowing in the public. Please explain.

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          Again. The theatre owners set the rules.

          The same as your bar example. If you owned a building or business then you can set the rules or make people leave.