Eh, I’m not sure I think hydrogen is the best option honestly. It seems like a lot of effort to go to, and certainly more than chicken some solar panels and a few batteries at a depot/on buses
@Baku@Railison Burning methane (“natural”) gas to make hydrogen to run a bus really isn’t much of a step forward, if your aim is to reduce emissions.
Some solar panels and a battery would be a much better option.
From TFA:
"But Guardian Australia understands the buses will run on grey hydrogen, produced using natural gas.
“Currently about 96% of the world’s hydrogen is produced using coal (brown hydrogen) and gas (grey). The production of grey and brown hydrogen releases carbon dioxide and unburnt fugitive methane into the atmosphere.”
Yeah never said that emissions reductions were the aim for this trial. They’ll be looking at how much the vehicles cost to run and maintain, and probably use that to help determine the strike price for green hydrogen subsidies down the track.
@Baku@Railison Battery electric busses are a well established and understood technology.
Modern cities already use them for the core of their bus fleet.
You can’t get demonstration grants for an established technology. If you want to get free money for these things it needs to be novel.
Regardless, anything is better than diesel. I ride my bike on a now almost all electric bus route. I hold my breath much less often now. The reduced particulates is enough to show in the graphs for Wellington
Eh, I’m not sure I think hydrogen is the best option honestly. It seems like a lot of effort to go to, and certainly more than chicken some solar panels and a few batteries at a depot/on buses
@Baku @Railison Burning methane (“natural”) gas to make hydrogen to run a bus really isn’t much of a step forward, if your aim is to reduce emissions.
Some solar panels and a battery would be a much better option.
From TFA:
"But Guardian Australia understands the buses will run on grey hydrogen, produced using natural gas.
“Currently about 96% of the world’s hydrogen is produced using coal (brown hydrogen) and gas (grey). The production of grey and brown hydrogen releases carbon dioxide and unburnt fugitive methane into the atmosphere.”
#bus #vicpol #climate #methane #ClimateChange #PublicTransport #melbourne #environment #auspol
Yeah never said that emissions reductions were the aim for this trial. They’ll be looking at how much the vehicles cost to run and maintain, and probably use that to help determine the strike price for green hydrogen subsidies down the track.
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@Baku @Railison Battery electric busses are a well established and understood technology.
Modern cities already use them for the core of their bus fleet.
You can’t get demonstration grants for an established technology. If you want to get free money for these things it needs to be novel.
Regardless, anything is better than diesel. I ride my bike on a now almost all electric bus route. I hold my breath much less often now. The reduced particulates is enough to show in the graphs for Wellington