• x4740N@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    You are toxic and share the same harassing behaviour of reddit atheists

    You think you can bully and harass users online and people who have spiritual beliefs with your holier-than-thou attitude

    If you think I will let the bullying and harrasment slide then you are wrong

    I have watched you and users similar to you harass and bully users on reddit for years and even go as far as to brigading subreddits for spiritual communities to harass and bully the users there, the same behaviour came over here to lemmy

    You are entitled to your own beleifs but to harrass and bully users online who do not share the same beliefs as you is not okay

    1. It is categorically nonsense. It has no basis in science, reality or even common sense.

    The spiritual community doesn’t need your scientific validation to practice spirituality

    1. I never stated that it came from one website. I said “The Secret” type. You missed an entire word. That would be a fair way to describe it as The Secret is the most common version of this nonsense.

    You use the word “nonsense” in a derogatory way

    1. I will ridicule anything that ultimately blames you for anything negative in your life. That’s the thing about this utter bullshit that people don’t seem to realize. There is a seriously dangerous flipside to believing that all the good in your life comes from manifestation. It means that all of the negative in your life is either you manifesting it as well or something you deserve for just not trying hard enough. That is disgusting and is not worthy of any respect in my opinion. Any “belief” that victim blames is something that is immediately worthless in my eyes. Not to mention the fact that it completely devalues hardwork and dedication by saying if you just visualize and believe it hard enough that it’ll magically appear in your life. Like I said. Nonsense.

    This is the exact behaviour of reddit atheists, beeliving they get w free pass to bully and harass people online who don’t fit into their hive mind

    And you share the typical misonformed view of spiritual communities amd spiritual beliefs and I don’t know of you are genuinely misonformed or are intentionally misinforming people about spiritual communities and spiritual beleifs as another tactic to bully and harass

    1. People who believe in this “law of attraction” and people who believe that vaccines cause autism both lack critical thinking skills. It’s completely unsurprising that they’re linked or that there’s a pretty frequent overlap.

    No you’re just being derogatory by falsely associating the spiritual community with those anti-vax idiots and you are using the phrase “critical thinking skills” as an insult and not with its actual meaning

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      11 months ago

      “A belief system that blames its adherents for anything bad that happens to them is kind of a toxic belief system.”

      “Yeah well you’re just mean. Stop bullying me.”

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      11 months ago

      While i agree that the person you’re replying to has a bit of a brash and elitist tone, they do have a point with line item #3 as they perfectly explained trying to stop victim blaming

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      11 months ago

      Sure, practice whatever spiritually you’d like (as long as it doesn’t hurt anyone else). I’m honestly glad it makes people happier overall. Please keep on doing it if you like it and it makes you happy (and doesn’t hurt or ridicule anyone else or their beliefs).

      Just don’t bring science into it. So many of us have put so much time and effort into discovering how things work and why they happen. All more or less concrete evidence that can be debated, but is able to be observed and reproduced.

      They’re two totally different things. I just wish people would understand that.

      For the record, I was raised religious. But since devoting so much of my life to science, I have very different views.

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        I’m not bringing science into it, I’m just tired of people using it as an excuse to discriminate against people who practice spirituality

        Stamets looks to be discriminating against people whether they realise it or not, they get overly rude and defensive when people defend spiritual practices, and stamets appears to hold misinformed views about spiritual people and spiritual practices

        I do admit my earlier comments responding to stamets where more emotionally fuled but that was because I hate seeing people discriminate against people who practice spiritual people like they think it’s okay not to view them as equal and discriminate against them because they practice spirituality

        I saw it happen for years on reddit and I guess that stored a lot of emotional fuel that needed to be let out

        Spiritual beliefs aren’t harmful, and aren’t harmful to others

        It’s the antivaxers, medical health deniers, and bigots who falsely claim to be spiritual or use spirituality as an excuse to commit these activities that are harmful