• breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca
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      11 months ago

      Metula is a town of 1700 people. Probably not safe to assume that every random Israeli dildo that says something idiotic is speaking for the country.

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        11 months ago

        The key will be if anything happens to that person as a result. Will there be any repercussions for him? If not, it is likely a systematic issue in their culture.

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          It reminds me of the whole “If you let a Nazi stay in your bar, it will eventually become a Nazi bar” allegory.

          Israel seems to already have become a Nazi bar, for quite a while even.

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          11 months ago

          Speaking of systemic cultural issues.

          Seventy-two percent of respondents said they believed the Hamas decision to launch the cross-border rampage in southern Israel was “correct” given its outcome so far, while 22% said it was “incorrect”. The remainder were undecided or gave no answer.

          https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/poll-shows-palestinians-back-oct-7-attack-israel-support-hamas-rises-2023-12-14/

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            11 months ago

            Yeah, definitely, the Palestinians are suffering immensely and have never had a means of finding justice for the harms they have suffered. I wrote this in another comment, but if the Israelis ever decide to pursue a path of healing instead of genocide, it is going to take a long time for the Palestinians to heal and recover from those harms.

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          11 months ago

          What would happen? Israelis have freedom of expression and it’s unlikely his disgusting comments rise to the level of a crime. Would you call that an actionable threat? He’s about as close to decision-makers as we are. Like, when Lindsey Graham called this conflict a holy war against Islam, it was revolting but I doubt most were surprised that he wasn’t legally punished. The most likely punishment is public ridicule and revulsion because there are few cases where people face legal consequences for speech.

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            The most likely punishment is public ridicule and revulsion because there are few cases where people face legal consequences for speech.

            Yeah, and something tells me he isn’t gonna get these things.

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              11 months ago

              What tells you? Do you think the Auschwitz Museum isn’t well-respected in Israel? Most English-language coverage in Israel seems to at least be prominently featuring the criticism over his statement.

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                  11 months ago

                  Which party ran on a platform of murdering or displacing everyone in Gaza? Most Israeli voters vehemently disagree with parties that ran on considerably less extreme platforms than that. Half the reason for the emergency unity government was removing those less extreme extremists from decision-making positions.

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                    I mean right-wing parties generally run on not allowing a Palestinian state to be created, and on settlement of the West bank and “hard on Gaza” policies. They’re not explicitly running on genociding Gaza, but that’s what these things mean.

                    I can’t find a recent poll about Israeli approval of the war (the most recent one I found was made in 19 November and had 88% approval), but the idea that Israelis are being forced to take part in this against their will is decidedly false; otherwise

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        11 months ago

        I’d wager the vast majority of people in the IDF have similar sentiments.

        Most of them are racist, sexist, right-wing scumbags.