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    They don’t look very aroused…

    Is Public speaking with your cock out, and your hips flared a rhetorical tool we’ve lost to time?

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          It didn’t need to be. Satan is pictured doing something us Satanists revere him for, rebelling against tyranny.

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            More like opposing God, like when he wanted Adam and Eve to eat the only fruit God explicitly told them not to eat

            That’s why you follow Stan

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              Is that why God gives babies cancer? Because our great^1000 grandparents ate a fruit off of his little tree? Sounds pretty tyrannical to me. They punish grandkids for their grandparents crimes in North Korea, too.

              Or maybe it’s just all some bullshit. Stan and Jod are not real bruh. Most of us just like the imagery, and what it represents. The opposite of the hypocrisy and tyranny that is Christianity. Logic, reason, and empathy.

              To be fair, there is at least a large chapter on empathy in the Bible that the vast majority of Christians seem to skip over. But most of you seem to want to focus on that first book so much.

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          Who cares? The subject matter is on-topic. Are you suggesting that people should not discuss any works of art having to do with satan, and thus not consider or discuss the context around those works of art, unless they were pro-satan artists? If so, you have a very restricted idea of philosophical inquiry.

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        No, they just don’t like anything that doesn’t subscribe to their particular brand of bullshit.

        Fuck that guy.

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          Fuck that guy.

          That was my initial reaction lol, but I am making the pointed effort to be neutral. They probably just don’t understand, they seem to think we actually believe in and worship Satan rather than what he represents. I avoid being aggressive so I have the opportunity to be heard, people really don’t understand Satanism and if I can enlighten them even a bit on what it really means, I’ll try to.

          🤘🏽

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            Like my dad always told me, it’s better to be the difference and not the average even if it means standing by yourself.

            I’m here to learn. I don’t understand (or particularly even know) the tenets. I’m happy to listen if you have anything to say.

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              Oh, I didn’t know you weren’t a Satanist! The Tenets are a basic moral guideline for Satanists but also in general, it’s a very short read if you’d like to quickly learn about them. I think you and even many Christians will find these to be very reasonable and good. Unlike other religions, there is no hard and fast rules that you must obey. Just be a good person!

              I just wish people took a singular moment to learn what TST Satanism is before jumping down our throats and imagining us as goat sacrificing cultists or something. Satan represents rejection of authoritarianism and tyranny, seeking out knowledge, and justice. Satanists value rationality and basing your beliefs on proven science, fighting for justice, equality, respect, and compassion. For many, it’s just politically-active Atheism, as we are nontheistic (we do not believe in the supernatural or any deities). I am an atheist, and a Satanist, TST Satanists are atheist or agnostic. It’s often described as “atheism describes what I am not (a believer in a God) and Satanism describes what I am and what I believe and value.”

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                That was fantastic! Thank you for the brief primer on this. I’ve been on the fence with this for a long time and while I haven’t dedicated myself one way or another; this is more or less what I try to base my day to day on.

                It’s funny, you know— how you can be on the cusp of something and not really know it. I’ll read through the tenets when I get a chance. Thank you very much, Internet stranger.

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                  I’m glad you enjoyed the rambles lol. I really appreciate your willingness to learn and try to understand, this is what the world needs more of. As a science loving and rational atheist, this was also always how I lived my life, and didn’t realize I could take it a step further and be not only with like-minded people, but help the fight for things I believe in like secularity, women’s reproductive rights, and so much more. Not only that, but I like the aesthetics of it haha. Thank you for your time

                  🤘🏽Hail Thyself🤘🏽

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          In what way exactly? The idea of Satan that Satanists use for symbolism is FOR humanity, FOR equal rights. Whatever evil demon you see from your bible is not what we look up to. Please explain to me how our Satan is against humanity.

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              I’m not a satanist. Though I fully support the causes these people are behind. But I have a few questions for you.

              So when I was 5 my mom kidnapped me and ran away to Florida with me. We were in church every time those doors were open. Unfortunately all the prayers in the world still didn’t help her get her insulin. I watched her wither and die SLOWLY. I was 8.

              Where was god?

              After her death. I moved back in with my dad where a neighbor began to sexually abuse me for a few years. My dad made sure we went to church every Sunday. It was my mom’s dying wish.

              Where was god? Was I not good enough? Did I not pray hard enough?

              I still remember the moment I realized that god doesn’t exist. It was night time and we had a trampoline in the backyard. I was standing next to it looking up at the stars. My breath still smelled like him. I was 10.

              So, I may not know much, but I know that your god either doesn’t exist or let those things and more happen. If that’s the case. I want nothing to do with him.

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                “If God real why bad thing happen?”

                I already know atheism is usually out of blaming God for personal and traumatic experiences, butbthat won’t automatically mean satanism doesn’t follow the devil

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                  It’s the simplest of logic. If I claim to have magic flying powers. Then I jump off a building and fall to my death. You’d say I was lying.

                  Likewise if people tell me that the god Ive been following is all knowing, all powerful, and compassionate. That all I have to do is be good and pray and he will watch over me.

                  So I do the things and he doesn’t hold up his end of the bargain. Then it’s a sham. It’s a lie. It’s a con. It’s bull shit.

                  Organizations are what they do. The church makes big claims. But follows through with none of the supernatural stuff, and very little of the material stuff like donations.

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              Again, the Satan YOU BELIEVE IN is NOT the Satan who’s symbolism we admire. I told you exactly what he represents to us, and it’s frankly disgusting if you somehow believe that equal human rights is evil. But then again, as your Christias churches love to say, “The Devil was the first to demand equal rights,” as if it is a bad thing lmfao

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                I don’t give a shit what you think you admire, you’re doing what the embodiment of evil wants.

                After all, the devil is known as a great deceiver