A lot of people are reading this wrong. What is likely going to happen is that the district court will say that a grand Jury can decide if something is an official act. That might be challenged again but I’d wager that’s the next stop in this saga.

You don’t actually have to. Trust me I’ve been through this.

That’s not what they ruled at all. They said there was immunity for official acts, specifically citing constitutional powers like appointing judges, commanding the military and recognizing foreign states. That was honestly never in question. A lot of people are reading this wrong. This was a massive punt, which basically opens up the door for a jury to decide what constitutes an official act.

You’ve described liberal democracy. The combination of individual freedom plus democracy is supposed to provide a framework for curating precisely the kind of political agency you describe.

I mean that’s the rub right? Enlightenment liberalism clawed its way out of the corpse of feudalism. Marx assumed communism would do the same thing to the corpse of capitalism. So far he’s just been wrong, at least in terms of the revolutionary/vanguardism model. That’s why there’s been an entire century of revision to that model to incorporate more democratic forward values. It’s just you average internet leftist refuses to acknowledge this, because the fan service isn’t as good.

Make no mistake, this is yet another example of Christian fascists putting pressure on payment processors because they can’t mind their own fucking business.

I’m sorry but this attitude is exactly how every left leaning space on the internet inevitably gets infiltrated by trolls. If you can’t manage to qualify opinions which are aligned with fascist opposition, and you even ban people for such qualification, then you are not an ally. Full stop.

Ok but that is essentially what’s happening.

What do you want, a secret post saying “haha here is my evil plan to subvert democracy by dividing the left!”

It’s honestly extremely sad that the primary requirement to be a leader is “ability to speak perfectly on stage for 2 hours.”

Sure, if you are comfortable with the moral liability of fascism them we probably don’t get along.

Maybe we don’t associate Biden with fascism frog

That’s my thesis though. These are actual bigots and trolls painting themselves pink.

So pardon me, but it seems like you are saying I could spread actual Nazi ideology as long as I claimed to be trans?

Counterpoint - this is absolutely a community of outside agitators and it was very obvious from day 1.

Counterpoint - these communities are a big part of a concerted right wing effort to divide the left by pushing an extremely insular and extremist version of left wing self parody. A lot of well meaning people buy into it initially and then don’t have the moral courage to step away from it when they are shown its extremist side. That’s why it is not very effective and very dangerous.

Blocking communities and users only makes bad actors more powerful because there are fewer voices pushing back against them. It’s the internet version of sticking your head in the sand because you don’t have the courage to confront evil.

You assume they are operating in good faith. This is the same harm maximization formula the_Donald used to spew hate on reddit for so long. You cannot just give bad actors infinite chances to figure out how you can be soothed and manipulated. You need to cut the cancer out while it is young cancer.

Yes, this place was very obviously a right wing propaganda community from the first day I saw it. It’s amazing so many otherwise smart leftists and progressives continue to fall for this mindless contrarian nonsense. These are trolls trying to divide us, and it’s incredibly obvious to me.

Baltimore’s subway is clearly worse.