Or else what? Withdraw the nomination? (You can’t withdraw a nomination lol)
Harris chose this
Exactly
Cut off funding, maybe. They would have guaranteed a loss with that maneuver thoug.
Even this seems far fetched. Why would they risk something like that in an election that had so much hanging on it.
I’m convinced that the DNC isn’t worried about winning any more races than they have to do that they survive as a political entity. Just going off the push the minority leaders have been making and the stream of emails and phone calls I get, as someone registered independent.
I see and hear nothing about actual policy change or progressivism from the names in the critical positions, and a lot about donations to “help us win next time, guys, for real this time!”
My senators (both women, both dems), haven’t actually responded to any of my calls, emails, or letters asking for their stances or plans for change. I have got several form responses that end with a call for donations, though. 🤷
Yes. As much as the Dems insist “This is a critical juncture, and we need to unite”, they mean “You need to unite behind whatever we say you need to do”.
See post-election: The only thing the Dems want to do is wear matching outfits, rather than vote “No”.
You know how in chess notation, questionable moves are marked with a question mark. That would have been a double question mark move. But dems have been making one questionable move after another.
They were already hanging the future of the country on an old man who struggled to stay awake through press conferences.
It worked for Trump.
Oh? Pulling a “Republican”? My wife made me do it? Wasn’t my fault? Attempting to distance herself so she can make a run for office again.
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As a liberal male from CA; she’s just not likeable. She gives off the energy of that high strung person everyone’s trying to avoid talking to at the cookout.
Then again Donald Trump gives off that creepy conspiracy theorist pedo vibe that you’d also avoid and the right loves him.
I’m less concerned with likability than I am with the reports of her being a bully to staff.
Color me surprised that the Democrats have as much blame for our current situation as the Republicans. Nobody, NOBODY, wanted to return to normal; they wanted real change and the best they got was state-sponsored financing for tech companies and unequal economic policies
She is her own person and has to live with the consequences of her choices like everybody else. It’s all in the past now and just a footnote in history.
She’s planning a run for Gov of California. So her recent history is still very relevant.
Wow, so if true this implies that in the Democratic party even the women running for president has to do what the big man says. Hope this is false.
It’s definitely not false, it’s the playbook all of the political giants have been running for very many years now.
She was elected, not appointed. She could say and do what she wanted and theres not much Biden could have done about it.
Who elected her?
I did, when I voted for Joe Biden, as did the rest of us.
You voted for Joe Biden, not for Kamala Harris
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She was not elected to the the presidential candidate for 2024, she was anointed by the party without an open primary.
If you can’t have a conversation without resorting to character attacks, that says a lot about your (lack of) character.
By the time Biden dropped out, it was one month to the DNC which would select a candidate. There was no time to run a primary, and they were actively attempting to prevent what happened at the last brokered convention which resulted in utter chaos:
We needed “utter chaos” at the convention, and didn’t get it. That convention needed to drown out the spectacle of the donvict, and draw in bored and disillusioned voters to participate.
It didn’t. They were trying to avoid a “Bernie Bros” scenario that couldn’t have occurred because we didn’t have months to fall in love with a particular candidate.
It sucked out what little life remained in the campaign, and gave us the most boring presidential race of my lifetime.
Yes there was still time to run a primary.
Besides, Biden should have dropped from the race many months prior, or better yet not run again at all as he promised during his 2020 campaign.
Harris and other DNC members shouldn’t have tried to gaslight us about Biden’s health during all that time; they really took us for a bunch of idiots, which most certainly didn’t help their case.
In my state, there are two ballot lines. One for POTUS, and one for VP.
I am pretty sick of the Democrats bullshit, but I’m even more sick of the Republicans bullshit.
I hate it here.
Libs be libbing
If anyone wants some good rage material, watch the Pod Save America interview with Harris staffers
Omg, only 15 mins in and I can’t listen this anymore. When she said “finally turn the page”, maaaaan. Did she wrote all Kamala’s speeches or smth? And again, instead of talking what was wrong, they just say that during a race their point is was to remind how bad it 3as during Trumps first presidency. Not what people are complaining about RIGHT NOW, but rather about how bad the orange man is. He is, we know. But that is not a solid and the only base to run on. There are much more serious issues in US than orange man bad which went undressed. And I am not even form US.
They could win by running Healthcare revamp, education revamp and tax revamp. But all these things are going against their sponsors interests. Us now is a fail state. Let us hope 2028 will be an actual page turn with fresh minds in the race.
My god! You mean they attached a bomb collar around her neck and said if she didn’t comply they would detonate it?
Wait, they didn’t do anything of the sort? Well, sounds like they didn’t force her to do anything and the only thing stopping her from speaking out was her own spineless cowardice.
“Leadership”
I am wondering if the mods of news@lemmy.world and politics@lemmy.world regret censoring the people who rightfully said these things and it would cost us the election. Like there’s mods in here who go “yeah that sucks, I knew it.” but also just defended Biden/Harris and removed good faith users who posted citations that even their beloved Media Bias Bot said was a good source.
They did it, banned the people who said it, and then people went “where are all those critics now? i guess putin turned them off! hurr hurr haw haw!”
Genuinely wonder if they question their choices of just doing this for free with literally zero benefit to their website and the country as a whole.
I am wondering if the mods of news@lemmy.world and politics@lemmy.world regret censoring the people who rightfully said these things
Probably still thinking “This is just a Russian disinfo campaign to smeer the libs!”
I assume so, as that’s the motto of any criticism.
A mod recently got mad a @return2ozma@lemmy.world for “going back to his roots” by posting actual criticism of the Democrats.
And I asked him “So is Obama just barred from commenting on them, despite being right the entire time?”
Mod responded “he spammed it”. I asked “Microwave posts about 20 posts a day about the same topics, why do they get a pass?” And I never got an answer.
I think flat.world is basically .ml for liberals.
Genuinely wonder if they question their choices of just doing this for free with literally zero benefit to their website and the country as a whole.
No, they dig their head in the sand and continue to play stupid. If they ever actually acknowledged reality they’d feel bad, so that’s not gonna happen
Just posting to remind/inform new users there’s been repeated drama with .world policies and mod/admin team in that past. It caused a lot of people to spread to smaller, more varied instances. Which is actually a good thing.
I just started and still don’t understand this lemmy. I thought one of the perks was being able to interact on any server despite which one holds your account.
You can, as long as the hosting server welcomes your interaction. They also have the freedom to NOT allow you (Or anyone else) submit content.
The way it works is communities are hosted on the instances and when moderators do things in communities that makes people mad those people can only go to that community’s instance administrators.
And then people get really angry at instance operators and admins with differing policies and rules about content and moderation.
So those conflicts can and do drive some culture wars. (Ex: Blahaj has little tolerance for gatekeepers, .ml has no patience for american liberal politics, .world is particular about zionism, and so on.)
But otherwise except for instances that defederate from each other the perk is absolutely that instances don’t really matter for registering and posting as a user.
At most just check the instance rules before posting and you’ll probably be just fine on Lemmy.
Yeah that’s true more or less. Some instances block others for ideological or technical reasons. Sometimes posts/comments take time to propagate across the network. But in general yeah you can see everything on all the other instances regardless where your home account is. You could even spin up your own instance and see everything, all the back-end traffic and raw data, if you wanted.
That’s really interesting. Are the people/entities who own individual servers (or even certain servers) known to the general public? I love the idea of social media not being centralized in the hands of billionaires, but I worry about trusting all of the same information to someone whose identity I don’t know at all. Flip a coin, they’re probably Russian or Chinese.
Basically I’m just asking about how/why we trust the owners of these servers. I still have a lot to learn about this technology.
Most of them are pretty visible and interact in their communities and I’m sure their contact info would be relatively easy to find.
But yeah I don’t think there are any rules demanding they be public and you definitely should not trust them by default. They’re people just like anyone else and can have their own agendas and ulterior motives.
Like they were ever going to.
If she was going to do something different to what the party wants, she’d never have been their nominee to start with.
Hillary was going to continue Obamas policies, more or less. its purely sexism why both female candidates never won, sprinkled a little racism.
Or, only people with certain beliefs have the backing/money to get to the top of a US political party.
They didn’t win because their policies don’t reflect the worker base.
Sounds like she’s a bitch. You’re campaign already started who gives a fuck what Joe Biden wants. Imo it’s good she didn’t win because if she could be that easily controlled then it’s better she stay on the sidelines.
Let’s blame Joe so Kamala can run again.
Not fooling me, DNC. I smell what you’re cooking.
Nah, I think we should run Biden one more time. Surely, it’ll be different this time! /s
I want to tell myself that there’s no way in hell they would let this happen, let alone make it happen.
Then I remember it’s the DNC.
I don’t think this is even close to possible. She has removed herself from public view for a reason. On a personal level, she’s done. If she had any intentions to run for any kind of office, she would have emerged by now as an opposition leader.
It’s not like they colluded to kneecap Bernie’s campaign. Wait…
Twice.
Kamala or Buttigeig, you can bet on it.
Seriously, go to Vegas. At least you’ll make money on the end of the world.
I’d bet they’ll try to run Blinken or Shapiro. Harris cant bring in campaign donations, and donations are all the DNC cares about.
I’m betting Mark Cuban. They (I believe, based on the sudden interest in him as a “Progressive billionaire” on various social media platforms, and in person talks) that the solution to a Reich Wing Oligarch is a different Reich Wing Oligarch, but Blue this time.
I feel like they have really poor name recognition. And while Shapiro looks great and presidential, Blinkin has a real “off” kind of look to him.
They’re also both in a murder and land left theft cult, and you can be sure that they will use any influence they get to further entangle the US in that, at astronomical cost to the US.
Buttigeig is likely going to run given that he is giving up his chance at a Senate seat.
I feel like Walz is going to run as well. He’s been showing up in national media a lot and seems to be becoming the face of the opposition.
Newsom seems like he’s going to run as well, but he’s been making terrible choices recently.
Yeah, Walz refuses to announce (like they always do) but you don’t make the amount of noise he is without gearing up for something. I don’t think there’s any way he doesn’t run, and currently he might even be my favorite of those that I’m confident will run. We’ve got a while before the next presidential election though, so anything could happen and I can’t really be bothered thinking about.
Buttigieg has made it clear that he is not running for office and is looking forward to playing support over the next four years.
Newsom seems like he’s going to run as well, but he’s been making terrible choices recently.
Yeah, he’s trying to become the preordained nominee by making choices party leadership likes.
Yup. If we don’t de-throne establishment leaders in 2026 I’m afraid that this is the way we are going to go. And as a CA I’ve mostly been alright with Newsom’s government, but he is absolutely not the guy for this moment in time in terms of the presidency.
Insert shameless plug for Saikat Chakrabarti, former AOC campaign manager and Chief of Staff who is running against Nancy Pelosi in the 2026 election. For those looking for a way to make a difference, supporting this guy’s bid and making him famous is a good, tangible way to do it.
We need more AOCs and fewer Pelosis.
This guy gets it. Speaking as a Californian, this is exactly, precisely what’s happening. I don’t use this term a lot because it resurfaces trauma of not realizing I was posting in a thread on Hexbear, but Newsom is straight up the textbook definition of a shitlib. He’s always kinda been a shitlib, with a ratio of one kinda okay decision to like four disappointing, mediocre, and shitty decisions that make the wealthy and corporate donors happy. Now that he sees a path to the presidency laid bare, he’s fully embracing his shitlib instincts. Please, for the love of Buddha, don’t vote for him in the primary.
Please, for the love of Buddha, don’t vote for him in the primary.
As though primary votes matter. The party successfully argued in court that they don’t.
You can always count on Ensign_Crab to twist the knife one last time. Gotta make sure they’re demoralized.
She’s free to run again, but this time she has to win the primary. And that’s unlikely. It’s rare in modern times for someone to lose a Presidential election and get another shot at it, Nixon and Trump are the only two in over a hundred years.
You seem to forget what they did to sanders. If they want a specific candidate they will make sure they win.
Also Adlai Stevenson in the 50s although he lost both times.
Same reaction here, and the DNC is just dumb enough to do it.
Well, there probably won’t be any more elections, so there’s that.
Yeah, I bet we won’t even have mid terms in 2 years
