• darkcalling@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 year ago

    I’m not entirely convinced this isn’t a propaganda push to convince Russia they’re sincere about this when they’re not.

    People might raise how these ghouls openly discuss their inner thoughts and plans in these kinds of publications and true enough but for the past 30 years America hasn’t had a peer power rival much less one they’re in a hot proxy war with which they’re not winning so they’ve been content saying the truth because what are the Jihadist (former) pawns of the US going to do about it? What is Iraq and Saddam going to do about it or Libya, etc. Russia on the other hand things are not going according to wishes though they haven’t gone totally south either. Did they ever expect Ukraine to win? Was the whole goal a quagmire in the vein of Afghanistan in the 80s for the Soviets? Was it just an exercise in purging old weapons and stimulating arms manufacturers in order to fill the reserves with the new stuff for China and get money out to the manufacturers to get the lines hot and ready for that conflict? Was it multiples of these?

    US has not and will not take its eyes off subjugating Russia but that doesn’t mean this whole thing couldn’t have been mainly for the purposes of expanding NATO, generating obedience and solidarity among their pet politicians in Europe and elsewhere, doing a test check on civilian populations for their obedience to the propaganda and willingness to endure hardships in the name of liberal democracy, and overall readying the populations, alliance itself, and arms of said alliance for a planned coming conflict with China in say 3 years?

    The US knows Russia is somewhat well managed compared to many of their enemies, has solid counter-intelligence capabilities and is a difficult, strong nut to crack. They also know they pay attention to these kinds of publications and words and maybe take actions based on them. They could be saying this as a lie arranged behind the scenes among these people to fool the Russians into accepting another false peace like Minsk Accords. They allow them the Eastern territories they annexed plus Crimea but without real recognition or legalizing it, they agree to cease hostilities and pinky promise they totally never really intended to bring them into NATO anyways or that it will be a long, long road (with a behind doors wink to Russia). Russia pulls back its troops, demobilizes entirely, then like a year later out of nowhere Ukraine has been fast-tracked into NATO with a quick vote and suspension of any rules preventing it all of a sudden. NATO forces roll in a month after the announcement of intent and weeks after signing and set up on the Eastern border of the Ukrainian rump-state with their weapons, radars and nukes not far behind. Maybe they stage a provocation to get into a hot war with Russia to retake Crimea and the lost territories while disciplining and humiliating Russia (or maybe getting us all nuked for their troubles in planning such), maybe they just sit there and hope for a chance at a good decapitating strike on the Russian government to throw it into chaos if they ever get a pawn into a highly placed military position inside Russia.

    All I can really say is with all the deception going on with this war and the fact that it is the industrial, war-complex-industrial bourgeoisie not the finance ones who hold the ears of the generals and political administration, a sign of a split does not mean any change in behavior. Nordstream was deception, Minsk accords were deception. US has admitted they lied about China helping Russia and had the press print it to try and dissuade China from doing that. They have openly admitted to media manipulation for the cause of the moment so everything has a huge question mark over it.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.mlOP
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      1 year ago

      If that’s the idea then it’s a rather misguided plan. Russia knows exactly what promises from the west are worth at this point, and they’re perfectly aware that if the conflict was somehow frozen then the west will waste no time pumping Ukraine with weapons and beefing up their military as fast as they can.

      After having committed so many resources, and having lost so many lives, it’s politically impossible for the Russian government to do anything but finish this decisively. There’s also very little reason for Russia to negotiate given that they’re winning militarily, economically, and geopolitically. The longer this war goes on the worse off the position of the entire west becomes.

      Finally, Russia knows that China has its back because China needs Russia as a partner to secure resources and as a shield in the west. The worst possible outcome for China would be if Russia was balkanized by the west and US was able to install puppet regimes there. The war is also depleting US resources pushing out their timeline for a conflict with China which gives China much needed time to prepare. Therefore, if Russia ever found itself in a difficult position then China will step in and provide support.

      This is not a conflict that can end on terms favorable to the west. The real question is what the west will do once they realize the reality of the situation. I’m hoping western leaders aren’t suicidal enough to start a nuclear holocaust, but given that constant escalation has been the approach, unfortunately that can’t be ruled out as the ultimate outcome here. The alternative is for the west to accept defeat which will be the end of the empire as everyone in the world will see that NATO cannot match Russia as a military power.