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    Shortly after Hightower’s casting, however, the student was replaced when the school’s principal, Scott Johnston, called Hightower’s father about a new gender policy for student performers.

    “Actors and actresses could only play a role that was the same gender they were assigned at birth,” Hightower recounted the conversation.

    This sounds like the kind of thing a school would do under the Nazis. I wonder why that is.

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      What the fuck?

      “Actors and actresses could only play a role that was the same gender they were assigned at birth,” Hightower recounted the conversation.

      When I was in school, they literally didn’t have enough students who were good enough to act, so there was so much gender bending. What garbage

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        During shakespeares time, they did not allow female actors, so all women on stage were played by men.

        Shakespeare had men acting in skirts and dresses. Juliet of Romeo and Juliet, a 14 year old girl was played by a man. The kissing between the Capulet heiress and the Montague boy were two men smooching on stage.

        Repugnicans are a plague on both your houses (of Parliament)!

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      “Actors and actresses could only play a role that was the same gender they were assigned at birth,” Hightower recounted the conversation.

      These people are so fucking clueless. Men playing women in theatre is literally as old as theatre because women literally weren’t allowed to.

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      These people would loose their mind if they ever saw a traditional British Christmas Pantomime

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      Also how that spits in the face of theatrical performances dating at least back to Shakespeare’s time, if not further.

      I never studied that stuff, but I did date a drama major back in the day.

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      I bet if you asked him if he was a Bob’s Burgers fan, he’d say yes and not be bothered at all that two of the lead female characters are played by men.

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              Hate to tell you this… I don’t know if you have kids yet, but it absolutely does not matter how you raise them, if they’re gay they’re gay. The only thing you’re teaching your children, if they are gay, is that their father probably will hate them if he finds out, and they better hide in the closet until they grow up and can escape you. Nothing else. LGBTQ is not the result of poor parenting, friend, it’s genetic.

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                  People literally get insurance in case their ram is gay. It’s common and natural, and I’m pretty sure it isn’t because those rams were indoctrinated.

                  There are gay people around you. They just haven’t told you because you’re a fucking bigot.

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                    I’m pretty sure it isn’t because those rams were indoctrinated.

                    The vast majority of mammalian species have high single digit percentage of gay members.

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                    Some of my closest friends are lesbians, and one ftm trans so I’m the farthest thing from a bigot. I just want hetro cis kids because of my upbringing and culture but you’re judging me for wanting that so who’s the bigot here bud?

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              just don’t accept that as an acceptable norm

              gosh if only there were a name for this phenomenon

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              Imagine thinking that forcing religion and heterosexual norms on a child will change their mind. Your religion does not dictate mine or my kids lives or lifestyles and don’t want that religious indoctrination forced on to us.

              Some people (Ally’s, LGBTQIA+, Genderqueer individuals, etc…) just don’t accept that as an acceptable norm in their culture and don’t want their children to think it’s an acceptable lifestyle. As someone who has a plethora of religious friends and acquaintances and comes from one of those liberal cultures I simply mean that I respect them and their rights but I also want to raise my children to grow up being their authentic selfs and living their life.

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                “grow up being their authentic selfs”? so what age would you introduce them to homosexuality and gender theory? would you rather have them be thought that by their school or are you going to teach them that they can just choose their gender or sexuality?

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                  The same age we introduce children to heterosexuality and gender theory. If the information taught is objectively truthful and backed up by scientific discovery then it makes no difference where it’s learned because it will be factual.

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                    Child abuse. Your job as a parent is to lead, not just go along with whatever they want or what the woke movement of the month is.

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                  At what age is it OK to let your kid read a book with a straight couple? At that age is the same age I’d teach for other option to be fine. There’s nothing scary about homosexuality just as there isn’t for heterosexuality. If them learning about heterosexual relationships doesn’t hurt them, learning about homosexual relationships won’t hurt them either.

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                    Go say this to a person in real life and see what reaction you get. You’re absolutely psychotic my friend.

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              Nah, nobody’s got rights to treat others like shit for who they were born as.

              It ain’t right when Salafist muslims do it, it ain’t right when black africans get told to do it by american evangelical missionaries, and it ain’t right when you try to play cover for it by painting it as “just culture.”

              That behaviour is disgusting barbaric and undeserving of the respect afforded to true cultural differences like language and dress and (non harmful) traditions.

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          Our culture” (mostly western European) does not care if men play women (or vice-versa) in a play. If anything, like other have mentioned, in condones it. Stop acting like what you believe is the arbiter of culture. What you believe is nothing and meaningless, and a minority in our society.

          Even if you were correct (which you absolutely are not), it wouldn’t matter because we don’t have to continue doing and believing the same things that were once believed. We can imagine and create a better world that let’s people be what they want and be happy. We don’t need you to agree to it, but it’d be better if you at least weren’t hostile to people trying to live their lives and not bothering you.

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            we don’t have to continue doing and believing the same things that were once believed. We can imagine and create a better world that let’s people be what they want and be happy. We don’t need you to agree to it, but it’d be better if you at least weren’t hostile to people trying to live their lives and not bothering you.

            Wise words.

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              So we should allow children to read books that are accepting of relationships at all, right? It’s either wrong to do or it isn’t. It shouldn’t matter what gender the people are in the relationships. Either you’re OK with some types of indoctrination or none.

              (I’m of the opinion it isn’t indoctrination to let people choose to read what they choose to read. It isn’t indoctrination to admit people exist.)

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          Ah yes, not hateful or afraid of LGBTQ people you just don’t want them to exist in public where you can see and talk about “exposure” like you’re talking about a disease. Can’t say I am fond of people talking about their own kids like chattel property where their parents decide every single interaction they have and shape their entire experience as though if they can just keep them “pure” of influence they will grow up to be good little carbon copies of their parents who will do exactly what they are told when they are adults. Seems like a good way to put a kid in therapy and for you to end up in a senior home to me.

          You want to teach your kid that the gays will burn, fine, the kids still got to learn how to be at least tolerant and share the space in society and learning to get along is kindergarten stuff. Training up little terrors who will flip the fuck out if they ever see two men holding hands while buying IKEA furniture is doing society at large a disservice. Also these are fucking high schoolers, do you really think you need to wrap them in cotton wool and give them safety sissors? I am pretty sure they would light you on fire for trying.

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          LGBT isn’t a choice and covering their eyes won’t change their sexual orientation.

          But, besides that point, how the fuck is it okay to insulate your kid from other cultures? That’s not healthy at all. Eating ramen wasn’t part of my family’s culture growing up, either, but I don’t go around trying to prevent children from learning about Japanese food.

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          You mean they do hate it but want to claim respectability points by gesturing to “muh kultor!”

          Queer folks are in every culture because they literally just happen everywhere. It ain’t up to some badnik lowdowns to decide it ain’t in their culture because it sure is when they’re kicking little johny on the street for not wanting to be called jessy anymore.

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      If I remember correctly back in the 18th century when only men were in plays they would also play women.

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      Actors and actresses could only play a role that was the same gender they were assigned at birth. Is just the next step, the Nazi’s have been coming for us but they weren’t you so you didn’t stand up.

      Over the last two years it was about fictional characters being played by people not of the characters race, and voice actors started losing work because they weren’t the same race as the characters being voiced.

      Before that it was wrong coloured fictional live action princesses.

      Before that it was wrong coloured actors using disguises and make-up.

      Before that it was black-face.

      And everyone thought, I’m not racist maybe that should be wrong! And now you’re racist, sexist, bigoted, for daring to have the admiration and respect to want to imitate ‘those people’. This is part of the culture war, they want to make sure you stay within your lines, on your rung, and in your place.

      FIRST THEY CAME
      By Martin Niemöller
      First they came for the Communists
      And I did not speak out
      Because I was not a Communist
      Then they came for the Socialists
      And I did not speak out
      Because I was not a Socialist
      Then they came for the trade unionists
      And I did not speak out
      Because I was not a trade unionist
      Then they came for the Jews
      And I did not speak out
      Because I was not a Jew
      Then they came for me
      And there was no one left
      To speak out for me.

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        Yeah, I really don’t think enough people realize this shit leads to “women can’t wear pants,” (would fit the statutes they pass to ban drag) which inevitably rolls back nearly all progress we’ve made in the past century regarding women in the workplace.

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          Or gay and trans people not being allowed to portray men and women, or keep straight people from portraying gay or trans people.

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            or keep straight people from portraying gay or trans people.

            Except no. If they were consistent, then yeah sure. But there’s nothing consistent about this ideology.

            They wouldn’t care about that. But more importantly, art containing gay or trans people is “degenerate,” and would never be made in the first place (or if made, its creators would be killed).

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        Not quite sure if I’m reading you right, but I’d say there’s a relevant difference between those examples, like recommending white people don’t act in blackface, which are about respecting the cultural sensitivities of a traditionally oppressed group, and those, like prohibiting trans kids from acting roles of their own gender, which are about enhancing the oppression of a traditionally oppressed group.

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          You think a bigot cares about consistency? The only thing that is consistent is their ability to hate. If you think they won’t go after their own who support the ‘others’ then I have a big lesson in history for you.