Apple is selling developers a $300 USB-C dongle to connect the Apple Vision Pro to a Mac, but in this incarnation, it turns out to be no faster than Wi-Fi.

$300 Vision Pro developer strap is just an expensive USB2 device::Apple is selling developers a $300 USB-C dongle to connect the Apple Vision Pro to a Mac, but in this incarnation, it turns out to be no faster than Wi-Fi.

  • thehatfox@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1174·
    10 months ago

    So a supposedly cutting edge $3500 device plus an additional $300 dongle gets a wired connection speed from the year 2000. USB 2 is 24 years old

    Welcome to the future folks.

  • realitista@lemm.eeEnglish
    722·
    10 months ago

    It’s hilarious how Apple still insists on making all their mobile devices USB 2. Have they not cracked the code for USB 3 after 11 years?

      • smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
        453·
        10 months ago

        USB 2, 3 and 4 are not direct new versions depracating previous ones. Those are tiers, versions are reprecented after the point, like 3.1 is directly better than 3.0 .

        USB 2 is not something that shouldn’t be used because USB 3 exists. It is just simpler, just four pins, two for power and two for data, meanwhile USB 4 requires much more complex stuff. Just like new Intel i7 processor does not invalidate new Intel i3.

        Still on a high-end phone 2.0 is bad, like putting i3 on high-end laptop.

        • bruhduh@lemmy.worldEnglish
          21·
          10 months ago

          What is bad, that is asking such prices for USB 2, that’s what I’ve meant, it’s like selling another 8gb of ram to upgrade to 16gb total for 500$

        • Chronographs@lemmy.zipEnglish
          1·
          10 months ago

          The pro models aren’t usb 2, just the normal models, as those are using the same processor as last gen. The usb controller is in the processor and last gen they were using lightning (which was usb 2.0).

    • bamboo@lemm.eeEnglish
      141·
      10 months ago

      The iPhone 15 pro is usb 3 and I believe current gen iPads are either usb 3 or thunderbolt

      • tb_@lemmy.worldEnglish
        205·
        10 months ago

        The iPhone 15 pro is usb 3

        After the EU forced them to adopt USB C

        • Fisch@lemmy.mlEnglish
          15·
          10 months ago

          It’s not about USB C but about the USB version. Only their Pro models have USB 3 but the other ones have USB 2.

          • Honytawk@lemmy.zipEnglish
            5·
            10 months ago

            The reason they have USB2 is because they are using the same motherboard as previous models. They just soldered the USB-c port to where their lightning port used to be.

            Meaning their lightning port was about as fast as USB2.

          • tb_@lemmy.worldEnglish
            5·
            10 months ago

            USB 3 wasn’t an option whilst they were sticking with lightning, and if the EU hadn’t forced them they clearly wouldn’t have switched.

            The reason the new non-pro iPhones use USB 2 is because they still use the old chip which previously used lightning, and as such never had a reason to support USB 3.

            So I would say this is about the connector, even though you’re technically correct that the protocol is separate from the standard.

      • realitista@lemm.eeEnglish
        4·
        10 months ago

        Yes only the very top model. But get this. They shipped it with a USB 2.0 only cable. You know, just to stick the knife in a little bit anyway. Those guys sure know how to make a joke.

        • bamboo@lemm.eeEnglish
          1·
          9 months ago

          The very top model is the Pro Max. Pro is the second top model, by price. But yeah…

          As a side note, the cable is actually really nice if usb 2 is fine. It’s super flexible and braided, all of my other braided cables are much more stiff. I would buy a longer one if they made one.

  • SinningStromgald@lemmy.worldEnglish
    512·
    10 months ago

    $300 for a strap from Apple? That’s cheap compared to the $999 wheels. People are gonna gobble those up lickety split.

    • SulaymanF@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7·
      10 months ago

      You’re not the target for either; they’re meant to milk business customers who don’t care about price.

    • Vanon@lemmy.worldEnglish
      282·
      10 months ago

      Just extracting wealth from the cult fans and tech illiterate. And they will keep pushing the insane prices, until people stop paying (sounds familiar). I wish they’d use their absurd profits to actually bring to market something truly spectacular. Dyson makes more daring and innovative products, funded by vacuums, heh.

        • Vanon@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          10 months ago

          Agreed. To be clear, I only meant this in the most insulting way to Apple, the proud engineers of $300 goggle straps and $1000 monitor stands.

          • modcolocko@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
            1·
            10 months ago

            You realize how massive of a marketing pull both of those are right, the 1000 dollar wheels were like 20% why people didn’t forget the mac pro 2 days after it was announced.

      • Chakravanti@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        4·
        10 months ago

        It’s Closed Source. No one truly knows how it really works. That means you were right to begin with. It’s a gorramn cult.

  • bamboo@lemm.eeEnglish
    26·
    10 months ago

    If it’s just USB 2, wouldn’t that be slower than WiFi in a lot of cases? Maybe not in a crowded area (like offices, which is probably a representative environment for a lot of developers purchasing this), but if you’re in short range of an AP you should be able to get over 500Mbps. Apple also likes to use WiFi direct, such as in airdrop, which can cut the AP out for shorter distance and therefore faster speeds.

  • AGD4@lemmy.worldEnglish
    222·
    10 months ago

    Aren’t they really paying for a dev license and support? Can they develop for the apple vision without the device?

    edit

    Nevermind. The article suggests the strap is a development “accelerator”. :/

    • vexikron@lemmy.zipEnglish
      212·
      10 months ago

      Yep thats right, you can totally do photoshopping or coding or work on spreadsheets with this device, it totally isnt an extremely overpriced demo of what could maybe someday kind of almost make sense for anything beyond extremely casual computer usage.

  • Toes♀@ani.socialEnglish
    113·
    10 months ago

    So when should I expect the collaboration between Elon and apple? so I can get an eye phone like Futurama.

    • bruhduh@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7·
      10 months ago

      Sooner than we think, which is scary, imagine suddenly catching cyberpsychosis because you didn’t paid your monthly kiroshi optics subscription fee and constant ads even if you paid

  • Resol van Lemmy@lemmy.worldEnglish
    22·
    10 months ago

    The future is here, and it’s ridiculously SLOW and ridiculously EXPENSIVE.

    I’d rather stay in 2012. The switch to Lightning is basically all I can handle when it comes to controversy.